VANDERBURGH COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS NOVEMBER 7, 2017

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1 The Vanderburgh County Board of Commissioners met in session this 7 th day of November, 2017 at 3:00 p.m. in Room 301 of the Civic Center Complex with President Bruce Ungethiem presiding. Call to Order President Ungethiem: Good afternoon. I would like to welcome you to the Vanderburgh County Board of Commissioners meeting for November 7 th. Attendance Roll Call President Ungethiem: And, ask Madelyn to do attendance please. Madelyn Grayson: Commissioner Shoulders? Commissioner Shoulders: Here. Madelyn Grayson: Commissioner Musgrave? Commissioner Musgrave: Here. Madelyn Grayson: President Ungethiem? President Ungethiem: Here, having three Commissioners present, we do have a quorum. Pledge of Allegiance President Ungethiem: I d invite you all to stand with me and join in the Pledge of Allegiance. (The Pledge of Allegiance was given.) President Ungethiem: Thank you. Introduction of Students in Attendance President Ungethiem: Okay, it looks like we have some special guests here. Would you mind introducing yourself and telling us where you re from? Erin Macke: I m Erin Macke. I m here with Teen Advisory Council. Claire Seaburn: I m Claire Seaburn, what is it on? Erin Macke: Yeah, it s on. Claire Seaburn: I m Claire Seaburn, I m also with TAC. I go to Memorial High School. President Ungethiem: Welcome, and thank you for coming to join us. Do we have any other students in the audience? Seeing none. Commission President Comments President Ungethiem: I ve got a couple of things, just before we get started. I want to extend a special congratulations. We haven t had a regular meeting since this occurred, a special congratulations to the 2A State Champion Memorial Boys Soccer Team, and Memorial Girls Soccer Team, who both won State Championships about two weeks ago. I think it s only the second time in the history of the State of Indiana that a high school

2 Page 2 of 38 boys and girls soccer team have both won the State Championship at the same year. The last time it was done was 20 or so years ago, and it was again the Memorial Tigers that did that back then. So, congratulations to them. Also congratulations to the Class A State Champion Mater Dei girls, who also won a State Title in soccer a couple of weeks ago. So, that reflects very well on our community, and we do extend congratulations to all three of those teams. While we re congratulating Commissioner Shoulders: Oh, gees, here it comes. President Ungethiem: --well, I ve got to do it. Commissioner Shoulders: Well, yeah. President Ungethiem: Congratulations to the two Evansville teams that won their football sectionals this past weekend. The 4A Central Bears, and the 3A Memorial Tigers. Congratulations to them, and we wish them success as they continue along the path towards trying to win a State Championship. Permission to Open Bids for VC : Concrete Repairs in Brookview Subdivision President Ungethiem: Okay, the first item on the agenda is permission to open bids for VC This is concrete repair in Brookville Subdivision. Joe Harrison, Jr.: Brookview. President Ungethiem: Oh, excuse me, Brookview Subdivision, and I would entertain a motion to approve the opening of the bids. Commissioner Shoulders: So moved. Commissioner Musgrave: Second. President Ungethiem: We have a motion and a second. All of those in favor signify by saying aye. All Commissioners: Aye. President Ungethiem: The motion is carried. President Ungethiem: So, Joe, you can work on that. Permission to Open Bids for VC : Milling & Resurfacing in Keystone Subdivision President Ungethiem: The next item is permission to open bids for VC , milling and resurfacing in Keystone Subdivision. I d entertain a motion to approve the opening of those bids. Commissioner Musgrave: So moved. Commissioner Shoulders: Second. President Ungethiem: We have a motion and a second. All of those in favor signify by saying aye. All Commissioners: Aye. President Ungethiem: Opposed same sign. (None opposed) President Ungethiem: That is approved.

3 Page 3 of 38 President Ungethiem: So, Joe, you have some envelopes to look at. We ll get back to that later on in the meeting. Growth Alliance for Greater Evansville Update President Ungethiem: Moving on to the agenda items, the first item is Growth Alliance of Greater Evansville update. Ellen Horan is here to tell us what s been going on. Ellen Horan: Great, I have a lot to share. I m Ellen Horan, President of the Growth Alliance for Greater Evansville. I ve been in that position for seven months now. So, happy to come here and report for the first time, formally, before the Commissioners. So, what I thought I would do is I would share for you where we are year-to-date with the Growth Alliance. I know the Commissioners had expressed interest in getting a feel for the level of activity within the city, and more significantly without, outside of the city limits within the Vanderburgh County lines. So, what I did was, I put together a report two ways, so that you can kind of get a feel for the level of activity that way. So, since the beginning of the year, the most exciting is when we have a company in that s willing to do a site visit. If you ve gotten that far, you ve crossed a lot of hurdles, and indications are good they re seriously interested. We had four companies in 2017 that came and looked at properties outside of the city, within Vanderburgh County. You can probably tell by looking at the names, most of those were all within VIP. So, that Park has been a significant asset for the work that we do. We had one, so far, with those, that was Polyram, which is going into VIP, and we have one still pending. We are still in the game for Project Picnic, also interested in the Vanderburgh Industrial Park. Often when companies are interested in coming into the area, they re looking for incentives. That was the case with two projects that we put before County Council; Polyram and also a consolidation, a company that was bought, Haggard and Stocking. We had four such abatements go through City Council. Interestingly, I would put two of those projects on par with the county projects. Two were special cases, with the Hyatt Hotel and a retail project which actually Council did, City Council did not approve. We re then responsible for monitoring the compliance with the tax abatements. You re aware that tax abatements can go on for ten years with each individual abatement that is given. The Growth Alliance is responsible for tracking those, and making sure that the companies are hitting their investment marks, hitting their employment marks, to warrant the investment that s made in the tax phase-in. We have 13 companies with 20 abatements that were approved at the county level. We have 15 additional companies at the city level with abatements. I think you would be pleased to hear that the compliance level is at 90 percent, which the State considers full compliance. We have not had significant issue with that. If we did, we d present it to Council, we have to follow up with every company that s not in compliance, ask them why. It s generally market conditions, or perhaps they deferred making some of the investment, which means the tax abatement also isn t coming in place. So, we feel companies are handling these abatements in good faith, and your investments are being handled well. New projects, most of our leads come from the State. You can see by the, I tried to project it out by the quarters. We had 23 projects that we were able to pitch local properties for. I found that, if we aren t able to respond for a request for information, it s generally they want really big sites, and we don t have that really in Vanderburgh County. We can pull together a couple of lots of at VIP. We have Interstate Crossing, which can get some acreage, but if they re looking for very large sites, food grade facilities, semiconductor, specialty industries, we re not able to respond to those. However, there were 23 that we did respond to, 16 of those were in the county, and only seven were city properties that we represented. You ll see, again, VIP has been a real asset. That was, you know, very proactive and very thoughtful on the Commissioner and County Council s part to be moving on that, the Evansville Industrial Foundation, that s been our most marketable properties. We re very, very happy to have those in our toolkit. We currently have four projects that are still looking at sites. Only one of them, I would say, is solely interested in downtown. That s an IT company, and they want cool, hip space, walkability, so, they re only looking downtown. The other three are looking throughout the county. There s a chance any of those could come online as well. We also spend a lot of time reaching out to companies, just being proactive, feel what their needs are, what they feel we, as a county, can be doing. We ve done 25 of those visits so far in 2017, six kind of parlayed

4 Page 4 of 38 into specific expansion projects. We ve also worked very much with our commercial realtors. I mentioned, I think in the past, that I feel we re constrained a little bit by the number of sites that we have. We could use more inventory. So, we ve been really proactive in working with the commercial and industrial realtors, to make sure that we re aware of the sites that we have. There is a site that the State uses, since most of the leads come in through them, we tag onto that site, have that linked into ours, and we ve added more commercial and industrial properties to that database. We re currently featuring 48 different properties, and/or facilities. We re also working with the Evansville Industrial Foundation Board. We ve taken over the administration of that. Their focused very much on how we re strategizing, marketing the Vanderburgh Industrial Park, but also thinking ahead to next steps. There s only four sites, I think, Bruce, left, four lots left at the VIP. They are all in play at any one point in time. So, they re looking forward to what are the next steps, how can they be proactive in the next VIP. So, we ll be working with them on that. Other things that I wanted you to be aware of that we do, that aren t county or city specific; we ve been working with the State on a program called INBiz. They re developing an online program to make it seamless for businesses to understand what permits and regulations apply. They re using Evansville and Vanderburgh County as a test to see, or a beta site. Can they include local and county data on it? Or does it make it then too complicated and to unwieldy. So, this is a great opportunity that they re allowing us to work with them to test this, because we re getting a site built at State expense, and it will be an asset for us here locally. You re aware that we also manage Innovation Pointe on Main Street. We operate that as a regional incubator. We re close to 100 percent occupancy. We have a couple of offices that we re holding open, because we would like to expand the co-work space. We ve had 22 new co-workers since the beginning of the year. We have 40 co-workers now. We do a lot with USI, they re a great educational partner with us. We co-hosted a Start-Up weekend with them. We also hosted a regional Pitch Competition. We had 12 early stage start-up companies, and two were then selected to move on for State funding. Interesting in working in this project, the attitude in Indianapolis is, we were shocked you had 12 companies to pitch. We didn t think much was going on in Southwest Indiana. Well, you know what, we re on their radar now. We had two companies move on to the State level. We also hosted the State Launch Indiana to come down. They re kind of analyzing what does the State s entrepreneurial ecosystem look like, and they used Evansville as kind of a hub, to kind of test what was going on in Southwest Indiana. We also had to recertify Innovation Pointe as a certified Tech Park. That had been done before and really brought the funds to town that did the original revamp of that building. By keeping it certified, there are no funds currently tied to it, but if and when there are, we want to make sure that we keep that building certified as a Tech Park. We also focus a lot on quality of place initiatives. When we go out and visit companies, we hear every time their number one issue is talent. We need to be able to attract talent and have a pipeline of workers. It was the Growth Alliance that brought Uber to town. That came out of a focus group with a group of Millenials, and we said, you know, what would make Evansville more interesting and exciting to you? Number one on their list was Uber. They were like, why don t we have Uber? We re the third largest city in Indiana. So, all it took was a boatload of meetings with Uber, and some persistence, and they re now here in town. We also plan the 4 th of July Fireworks. Hopefully we can transition that to the Downtown Alliance, if and when the Economic Improvement District is approved. We are also a brand champion for the e is for Everyone campaign. I serve on the Executive Committee with that. Another thing that was on the Millenials list, right under Uber was, it was their suggestion that we get a trolley. They love the cultural districts that are forming in Evansville, from Haynie s Corner to Franklin Street to downtown, the Double Tree, but they would like, if you can t have walkability, they would like increased mobility between those areas. It was their suggestion to have a cool trolley that would go in between them. So, we searched around for some funds to be able to make that happen. We were awarded a $25,000 grant from the State, which we re required to match with $25,000. It s kind of interesting, they require us to raise that matching funds via crowd funding, because they want to see community buy in to the project. We have one week left in the campaign, and we have about $4,000 left to raise on that. We re fairly comfortable we ll have it. I want to give a shout out to Ben Shoulders, he made a nice contribution today. At a $1,000 level you can get your name on a bench. So, Ben, thank you very much for supporting the project and making that contribution today.

5 Page 5 of 38 Commissioner Shoulders: My pleasure. Ellen Horan: Also, we ve applied for a grant, which we just heard last night that we got, and that s with the Evansville Endowment Fund. That s going to give us $35,000 towards the expansion of our co-work space. So, we think these projects that are improving the quality of place in our downtown, in our hub are really important to the region as a whole, and we ll be continuing to support those. The board set out as their priorities, focusing not so much just on attraction, but on the existing companies that are here. We re doing an economic survey, we re visiting more companies. I hope that by the next time I come and present to you we ll have data back from those surveys and those visits, and I would like to be able to share those with you. We also started a Trusted Advisor Network. We had about 30 accountants, bankers and lawyers attend to learn more about how they can connect their customers with economic development projects. Innovation and Entrepreneurship, we ve started events down at Innovation Pointe, every Tuesday morning, it s called Common Grounds, 7:30 to 8:30 a.m. It s grown from the initial 25 to about 50 people are coming every week now, just to hear about start-up companies, something new happening in the community. Just people wanting to be a part of the buzz of what s happening in the region. Our talent committee is very focused on following up on our Millennial study that we did, of how can we get more people to return to Evansville? This was one of the areas that the consultants suggested to us that we focus in on. They find that there s a lot of people that will come back, in their 30 s as they start a family, as they re moving up in their career. So, we re going to be looking at a social media campaign with that. Lastly, I want to comment on the engagement and involvement we have in various planning studies that are going on in the community. There s the Ohio River Crossing project, we stay very close to that and attend all of the meetings. The University Parkway study, providing input. I personally had focused on the need for zoning with my input on that project. Route 41 is currently under study for how that can be streamlined, increased mobility, increased accessibility, maintain safety. This week they re starting with the Lloyd Expressway, with planning on that. Again, mobility, access, safety being priorities, and also met with consultants that the Commissioners have hired on priorities for overall county infrastructure. So, I m really proud, you can tell we do a lot with our staff of five, and I thank you for your support of the Growth Alliance and our activities, and would entertain any questions you might have. Commissioner Shoulders: Very thorough report, Ellen. I also wanted to thank Sheriff Dave Wedding for his commitment to the trolley project as well. Ellen Horan: Thank you. Commissioner Shoulders: Thank you, Ellen. President Ungethiem: Any questions for Ellen? Thank you very much for the report. Ellen Horan: Great, thank you. First Reading of CO.V & Permission to Advertise Notice of Public Hearing President Ungethiem: Okay, moving on, first reading of CO.V and permission to advertise notice of public hearing. This is an ordinance to vacate a portion of Jones Road. It s on first reading and it will go forward to public hearing on December the 5 th. So, I would entertain a motion to pass first reading of this ordinance. Joe Harrison, Jr.: And advertise the notice. President Ungethiem: And advertise the public hearing. Commissioner Shoulders: So moved. Commissioner Musgrave: Second. President Ungethiem: We have a motion and a second. Any comments from the Commissioners or from the general public? Seeing none, roll call vote please. Madelyn Grayson: Commissioner Shoulders?

6 Page 6 of 38 Commissioner Shoulders: Yes. Madelyn Grayson: Commissioner Musgrave? Commissioner Musgrave: Yes. Madelyn Grayson: President Ungethiem? President Ungethiem: Yes, and it s passed by a 3-0 vote. First Reading of CO.V & Permission to Advertise Notice of Public Hearing President Ungethiem: The next item on the action items is the first reading of CO.V and permission to advertise notice of public hearing. This is an ordinance to vacate two highway easements west of Red Bank Road and north of Jones Road. This again is a first reading, and the public hearing and final reading will take place, if it s passed, will take place on December 5, I would entertain a motion to approve. Commissioner Musgrave: So moved. Commissioner Shoulders: Second. President Ungethiem: We have a motion and a second. Any further comment? Any questions from the audience? Seeing none, roll call vote please. Madelyn Grayson: Commissioner Shoulders? Commissioner Shoulders: Yes. Madelyn Grayson: Commissioner Musgrave? Commissioner Musgrave: Yes. Madelyn Grayson: President Ungethiem? President Ungethiem: Yes, and the first reading passes by a 3-0 vote. First Reading of Ordinance CO : Amending the County s Stormwater Drainage Control Ordinance President Ungethiem: Next item is a first reading of ordinance CO amending the county s stormwater drainage control. I would entertain a motion to approve the amended county stormwater drainage control. Joe Harrison, Jr.: Ordinance. President Ungethiem: Or ordinance. Commissioner Shoulders: So moved. Commissioner Musgrave: Second. President Ungethiem: We have a motion and a second. Questions and/or comments? Jeff, would you like to give a brief summary of what this is about? Joe Harrison, Jr.: Brief. Jeff Mueller: Did Joe say that? Coming from an attorney. The code is, you know, we ve been trying to update it. This is the second round of code changes that have been made since I ve taken office. The code is trying to streamline a few things. We re also trying to make it easier to update some of our drainage issues as things change within regulations, within storms due to changing climate. There s a whole bunch of other little things there.

7 Page 7 of 38 It s went through a number of different people. We vetted this through the different departments in the city and county. We met with SIBA, a couple of the Commissioners have been involved, and I think everybody feels good about what it s going to be. The only other thing would be, as you ll recall, we added a technical memorandum, and once the code is approved for change, then I ll be bringing the technical memorandum in for your approval in early December. Commissioner Musgrave: Really appreciate all of the work that you ve done on this. It s been quite a project. Jeff Mueller: And I appreciate everybody s help on it too. Commissioner Shoulders: Great job, Jeff. President Ungethiem: Any questions? Okay, any comment from the public? Seeing none. We ve got a motion and a second. Roll call vote please. Madelyn Grayson: Commissioner Shoulders? Commissioner Shoulders: Yes. Madelyn Grayson: Commissioner Musgrave? Commissioner Musgrave: Yes. Madelyn Grayson: President Ungethiem? President Ungethiem: Yes, and thank you, Jeff, for going through that very extensive study of our stormwater drainage control. First Reading of Ordinance CO : Establishing a County Riverboat Casino Fund President Ungethiem: The next item is first reading of ordinance CO , establishing a county Riverboat Casino Fund. I would entertain a motion for first reading of this ordinance. There will be a second reading, but this is the motion for the first reading. Commissioner Musgrave: Move approval. Commissioner Shoulders: I will second under the condition this takes effect for the 19 budget. President Ungethiem: Okay, questions or comments? Let s start with the Commissioners. Any questions or comments regarding this Riverboat Casino Fund? Any questions or comments from the public? Please step forward. Tony Bushrod: We no longer have a riverboat, it s a casino now. Commissioner Shoulders: Good point. Joe Harrison, Jr.: That s good, but the statute still reads that way. President Ungethiem: We ll need to correct that at the State level, and we don t have that power. Any other questions? Please come to the microphone and state your name. John Montrastelle: Good afternoon, Commissioners. My name is John Montrastelle. I m the President of the County Council. This just came to our attention yesterday. Our attorney, County Council s attorney, Mr. Jeff Ahlers, had some questions with some of the language that was in the ordinance. He would like some of that worked out before this moves down the road any further. I concur with Commissioner Shoulders that one caveat to this, if this is passed, that we do this in Our budget s already been passed. It s already been sent to the State. This would throw a huge monkey wrench into all of that. I think our Auditor, Brian Gerth, can speak to that a lot more than I can. But, like I say, some of the language is, doesn t seem to sit well with our County Council attorney. So, I think some of that needs to be worked out. Commissioner Musgrave reached out to me,

8 Page 8 of 38 and she wants to have a meeting about appropriations, and I believe, Commissioner Musgrave, this is the meeting you want to discuss this? I m not sure. Commissioner Musgrave: No. John Montrastelle: No? Okay, so, that part Commissioner Musgrave: It has nothing to do with this whatsoever. John Montrastelle: --that meeting is a surprise. We ll see what that meeting is about. But, so, that s what I have to say about this ordinance. Joe Harrison, Jr.: If I could just say, I did talk to Jeff today and he was comfortable with the language that s in there. John Montrastelle: Well Joe Harrison, Jr.: I talked to him about an hour ago. John Montrastelle: Okay, you got a further update, because my conversation was around 11:00. So, I m still going to lean on Jeff and what he told me. So, okay? Joe Harrison, Jr.: He did express an interest in the 2019 condition. John Montrastelle: Uh-huh. You know, if this is in the best interest of our county, then we re not going to have a problem with it. We ll be fine. Your County Council will be fine with it. It s just that the 2019 part of it was a big concern with our Auditor, as well as our office as well. President Ungethiem: Let me ask a procedural question. If there is any change in the language, if we pass the first read and then change the language, do we have to go back and do a first read again? Joe Harrison, Jr.: No. You could add that to it today, if you wanted to, in the motion, and that would take care of it. President Ungethiem: So, if we pass it on first read, we can change it before second read, and then pass it on second read without going back to first read? Joe Harrison, Jr.: If it s unanimous. I mean, if you change something again in the ordinance, but today, go with the condition that it s going to take effect in 19, which means, technically it s going to be in effect for 18 because the budget process will begin in 18. So, you ll know that the Fund is in effect, and the monies that would go into the Fund in 19, whatever those are, would cover the, or would be a part of the budget process in 18, I guess in July or June of 18 for consideration by the County Council in September or August of 18 for 19. Brian Gerth: Yeah, I mean, we can set the Fund up, and then when we have our budget requests come in July 1, we advertise in mid-july, you know, before the budget hearings, so it will set that in motion for 19. Commissioner Shoulders: These are why I think the conditions should be started in 19. Brian Gerth: Exactly. Commissioner Shoulders: And not Joe Harrison, Jr.: But, again, the Fund s got to be in place in 18. John Montrastelle: Correct, I agree. Joe Harrison, Jr.: It s going to have to be advertised. It can t just start in 19. It s going to have to Commissioner Shoulders: Yeah. Joe Harrison, Jr.: --the ball s gotta roll in 18. Brian Gerth: It s just gotta work, be yeah.

9 Page 9 of 38 Commissioner Shoulders: Sure. President Ungethiem: Another clarification point, to make sure I understand, this is an ordinance which is allowed by State statute, and it s an ordinance that is currently in place, or has been in place since the inception of the riverboat in the City of Evansville. Joe Harrison, Jr.: Yes, that s correct. President Ungethiem: Is that correct? Joe Harrison, Jr.: Yes. President Ungethiem: Okay, so what we re doing is, we re just mirroring the ordinance that the City of Evansville has had in place since, what, 1995? Joe Harrison, Jr.: They ve had it since 95 or six, but they get a lot more money than the county. President Ungethiem: We need to work on that too. Joe Harrison, Jr.: But theirs has been in place for over 20 years. John Montrastelle: I just want some of the stuff that Mr. Ahlers has addressed to you, Joe, cleaned up. Joe Harrison, Jr.: And, again, you can talk to him, but he was concerned about the 19, and the other language that was added to it about additional appropriation has to be done by County Council has to happen, that s in it, so. John Montrastelle: Okay, thank you. Joe Harrison, Jr.: I think you re covered. John Montrastelle: Okay, thank you. President Ungethiem: Okay? Mike Goebel: Mike Goebel, County Council. My request would be that perhaps the Commissioners come before a Council meeting and explain the reasoning behind the new ordinance that you re proposing. I hope, for the budget s sake, that this 2019 clause is put in, but it would be nice for us to know. It came out yesterday through an that this is being considered for a first reading, and we re kind of blindsided by it. I think, in the spirit of cooperation and working together, it would be nice to know the rationale, and it would be nice to know that straight forward, coming from you. That s my only request. Thank you. President Ungethiem: Any other comments? Questions? Okay, let me make sure I understand the motion. Commissioner Musgrave made a motion, you made a second with a slight addendum to it, adding Commissioner Shoulders: That it would take effect in 19. President Ungethiem: Are you comfortable with that change? Commissioner Musgrave: No. President Ungethiem: Okay. So, we really don t have a second, because we need to have both the motion and the second legally, correct me if I m wrong, for the same motion. Joe Harrison, Jr.: You can withdraw yours and vote on her, you can withdraw your addendum and vote on her motion, and then if you want to, if it passes or doesn t pass whatever happens. If it doesn t pass then you can make another motion. Commissioner Musgrave: It will give us time anyway. We can still change it later, but I would like to have this version go forward, and we can have discussions and contemplations and clarifications.

10 Page 10 of 38 Joe Harrison, Jr.: Whatever you guys want to do. I mean, I think it would be good to get it going today, but whatever you want to do. President Ungethiem: Okay, so we have a motion on the table to pass as is. Do we have a second? We don t have a second. So, that motion fails. Is there another motion on the table to pass this with any changes? Commissioner Shoulders: Yeah, under the condition that this takes effect in 19, would be the motion I would entertain. Joe Harrison, Jr.: I would say with the 19 budget. Commissioner Shoulders: With the 19 budget, 18 discussions of the budget. President Ungethiem: Okay, we have a motion for the same ordinance, but being effective in the 2019 budget. Commissioner Musgrave: Will you change your motion to prohibit Council from withdrawing any funds from the Riverboat Account in 17 or 18 to be taken out of Riverboat and put into the General Fund. Commissioner Shoulders: No, because I think I will go along with Councilman Goebel s request in us, one of us discussing the purpose before I would agree to that. Commissioner Musgrave: Which is why I wanted to leave the original motion, so that we would have scope for discussion. I will note that I have made phone calls to Councilmembers, sent s, asked for return phone calls, asked for meetings, and have failed to get them on other topics. So, I m not sure why, suddenly, they re receptive to being conversed with. John Montrastelle: Can I address that? I m absolutely open to discussing this issue. This just came before us yesterday. Commissioner Musgrave, you ve, I indicated to you earlier about a meeting that you wanted to have President Ungethiem: Come up here so we can get this it s hard enough to transcribe this the way it is. John Montrastelle: Well, Commissioner, you said that you ve reached out with s. I ve gotten an that you wanted to have a meeting, and you really wouldn t tell me what it was about. You said it was about appropriations. Okay? I just ed you yesterday that, yes, let s have that meeting. That s when I learned about this. I thought that this was what you wanted to discuss, but I don t know. You just said no. So, when you say you ve reached out to Council that you wanted to discuss this, you haven t reached out to me. Commissioner Musgrave: Really I m referring to other matters. John Montrastelle: Other matters? Commissioner Musgrave: Yeah. John Montrastelle: Can you be more specific? Commissioner Musgrave: In last week s, or the special meeting John Montrastelle: I mean Commissioner Musgrave: -- it s on the record where I said that I reached out to three Councilmembers to have a discussion about a matter that was on the special meeting agenda. I managed to speak with you. I left messages for others, and don t get return phone calls or any other, so, it s just, as Commissioner Shoulders is fond of saying, all I got was crickets. John Montrastelle: I get that a lot too. I do. I think we were talking about the healthcare last Tuesday morning, and we did discuss, and I said reach out to other Councilmembers and share your thoughts, which you did. I can t speak for them why they didn t, why you didn t connect with them, you know. But, you know, Commissioner Shoulders made a

11 Page 11 of 38 motion to, let s do this in We have time to do this right. You know, and that s all I ask, let s do this right. Let s work this out. Let s discuss this, okay? Let s do it right the first time. As Commissioner, Councilmember Goebel said, in spirit of cooperation and spirit of unity and working together, let s do it right. Commissioner Musgrave: I think that would be a refreshing change. So, I look forward to that. President Ungethiem: Okay, thank you. We still have a motion on the table. We need a second. For the purposes of moving this forward, I will second the motion, but before the final reading, I would request that we get a meeting between the Commissioners and the Council to sit down and discuss this issue and come to a mutual agreement before we have the second reading. So, I will second the motion to go forward, to be effective in 2019 Joe Harrison, Jr.: Budget. President Ungethiem: --in the 2019 budget, with the caveat that we need to get a meeting scheduled Commissioner Shoulders: Yeah. President Ungethiem: --so that we can sit down and discuss this. Commissioner Musgrave: If you want to make that a second, a different motion, I ll go ahead and second that one. Commissioner Shoulders: Well, you already yeah. President Ungethiem: Okay. So, we have a motion and a second to pass this on first reading, with the effective date being the 2019 budget. Any questions? Any comments? Mike Goebel: Thank you, Mr. President. Just for my understanding, we re going to meet before you have your second reading. Is that correct? President Ungethiem: Yes. Mike Goebel: And, will this meeting be in the, like a Council, regularly scheduled Council meeting? Joe Harrison, Jr.: Well, it will either be a joint meeting, or it will be a meeting between less than a majority of members. Mike Goebel: Okay. Joe Harrison, Jr.: So, I guess it depends on how you all want to do that. Mike Goebel: That s fine. I mean, December 6 th is Joe Harrison, Jr.: December Second reading is not next week. It can be at the meeting in Commissioner Shoulders: Yeah. Joe Harrison, Jr.: --because the motion now is that it would take effect in the 2019 budget. Mike Goebel: So, it could be, we could discuss this Joe Harrison, Jr.: It could be December 5 th could be the final reading. Mike Goebel: Thoroughly, that would be nice. Thanks for the consideration. President Ungethiem: Okay. Other comments? Alright, we have a motion and a second. Let s have a roll call. Madelyn Grayson: Commissioner Shoulders? Commissioner Shoulders: Yes.

12 Page 12 of 38 Madelyn Grayson: Commissioner Musgrave? Commissioner Musgrave: Yes. Madelyn Grayson: President Ungethiem? President Ungethiem: Yes, and the first reading is approved for establishing a county Riverboat Casino Fund. President Ungethiem: Moving on, oh, before we move on, Kristin, would you please orchestrate that meeting, and get it called as soon as possible? Commissioner Musgrave: Before we go there, is it going to be a meeting of less than a majority of the members? I think it should be. That would mean that you re volunteering to do it. So, answer accordingly. President Ungethiem: For purposes of Council, it would mean less than four members. For purposes of us, it would be one. Commissioner Shoulders: Right. President Ungethiem: I m fine with that, if that s the way we want to do it. We can do it that way. Okay. First Reading of Ordinance CO : Amending Section (G): Contractor Licensing Fees President Ungethiem: The next item, first reading of ordinance CO , amending section subparagraph (G) of the Contractor Licensing Fees. I would entertain a motion for the first reading of this ordinance. Commissioner Musgrave: Can we have a discussion first? President Ungethiem: Sure. Commissioner Musgrave: I had a long meeting with Ron Beane, and discussed with him, we ve had multiple meetings with the interested parties throughout the spring, and increasing the fee schedule was one of the issues. The membership of this, you know, our little group, supported an increase in the fee schedule, but they also said that their key need was increased number of inspectors. This new fee ordinance is a 16.6 percent increase for most of the fees, and it s less than, I think he said it s like 22 percent increase in cost of living during that time. So, it doesn t quite pace with the cost of living increase since the last fee increase, but it will generate roughly $158,000 a year annually. In 2010 the Building Commission lost an inspector position, and I feel that, well, I m going to predicate my support for increased fees on the addition of an additional inspector position. Or, in other words, putting back in place the one that the Building Commission lost in 2010, during the economic downturn. Ron said that he would take that to the City Administration, and quite frankly, he was in full support of this approach. I have not heard anything back on that. Not that this is any kind of great leverage to refuse to pass the ordinance, because, in truth, should we fail to pass the ordinance today, anybody wishing to hold a license in Vanderburgh County is going to pay the increased fees anyway, because you can t prove in advance that you re not going to work inside the city. Most of the property is inside the city. So, it s largely symbolic that we pass this or don t pass this. The fees have already been increased by City Council. They increased these fees, you know, talking about free and open communication, without telling us. They didn t give us any advance warning. They didn t discuss it with us. They just passed it and then turned around and said, hey, hey, you, pass this too. So, I think that we ought to inform the city that the builders, number one, need, in terms of what this funding can be used for, is an additional inspector. How we do that is, of course, we can choose how to do that, but these fees are more than enough to fund that position. President Ungethiem: Let me ask a legal question. This is a joint committee, or joint commission that is

13 Page 13 of 38 Joe Harrison, Jr.: Funded, I think, 75/25 city. President Ungethiem: It s funded by both organizations, but it s actually supervised by the city. So, any addition to workforce in that would be approved by the city, not by the county? Joe Harrison, Jr.: That s correct. President Ungethiem: Okay. Joe Harrison, Jr.: But, you might want to consider passing it on first reading and letting it sit, until you hear they re going to add somebody next year or whenever, but I think it would be a good idea for the county to have the same ordinance as the city. President Ungethiem: Okay. Joe Harrison, Jr.: But, I think if you do it on first reading it won t get lost, and maybe it will assist them to move forward a little quicker. President Ungethiem: Okay. Joe Harrison, Jr.: Just a thought. President Ungethiem: Any other discussion? We need a motion. Commissioner Shoulders: So moved. Commissioner Musgrave: I ll second, and, again, I m hoping that the city adds a position. President Ungethiem: Okay, we have a motion and a second. Any further comments? Roll call please. Madelyn Grayson: Commissioner Shoulders? Commissioner Shoulders: Yes. Madelyn Grayson: Commissioner Musgrave? Commissioner Musgrave: Yes. Madelyn Grayson: President Ungethiem? President Ungethiem: Yes. First Reading of Ordinance CO : Amending Section : Building & Construction Fee Schedule President Ungethiem: The next item is first reading of ordinance CO , amending section of the Building & Construction Fee Schedule. I need a motion to approve first reading of this ordinance. Commissioner Musgrave: This is the companion to the other one. So, they go together. Commissioner Shoulders: It s the same, yeah. Commissioner Musgrave: One is for the Builder s Licenses, the amount that you have to pay every year to hold a building license. This one is for the permits that you have to pull. So, I ll go ahead and make the motion with the same understanding. Commissioner Shoulders: Second. President Ungethiem: We have a motion and a second. Any further discussion? Seeing none, roll call please. Madelyn Grayson: Commissioner Shoulders? Commissioner Shoulders: Yes.

14 Page 14 of 38 Madelyn Grayson: Commissioner Musgrave? Commissioner Musgrave: Yes. Madelyn Grayson: President Ungethiem? President Ungethiem: Yes, and that first reading is approved by a 3-0 vote. President Ungethiem: Knowing that Ron is on board with this and is in full support, I certainly hope to hear from the city about their capability to add an inspector to that department. Request to Waive Guidelines for Retiree Insurance President Ungethiem: Moving on, the next item is a request to waive guidelines for retiree insurance. This was a request from a county employee that does not meet all four of the criteria for retiree insurance. The criteria that is not met is the 20 years of creditable employment. She s requesting that we waive that and allow insurance coverage. This person has 17 ½ years of employment, and is planning to retire on January 1 of Our Auditor has taken a look at this and indicated that that would be 33 months of additional coverage until this person reaches the age of 65, when she becomes eligible for Medicare. Estimating the cost of that to the county of $48, That is assuming that healthcare insurance rates stay constant, which is probably not a good assumption. So, the reality of this is that this is a waiver for 33 months, and at a cost to the county of $48, Commissioner Shoulders: Is that using 17 numbers or 18? Brian Gerth: It s using 18 s numbers. Commissioner Shoulders: That s 18 s numbers? Brian Gerth: Uh-huh. President Ungethiem: Questions or discussion? Is there a motion to approve a request to waiver guidelines for retiree insurance? Seeing none. The request for waiver guideline, or the request to waive guidelines for retiree insurance is not approved. Tri-State Community Clinics Contract President Ungethiem: Moving on, we do have some good news. We are going to spend some time talking about that. The clinic that is operated by QuadMed at this point in time, and is subcontracted from, the city actually has the contract currently. The county subcontracts from the city to use the clinic. Over the past, probably five or six months, we have been looking at and negotiating a new contract with the clinic providers, and there is now an agreement to extend that clinic contract to Tri-State Community Clinics. We have a couple of people here that have been integrally involved with this. So, I think, at this point in time I would like for, Ben, are you going to be Commissioner Shoulders: Steve. President Ungethiem: --or, excuse me, Steve, are you going to be the spokesperson for just give people a flavor for what has gone, what has happened over the course of the last three or four months, to get us to this point. Steve Snyder: Sure. My name is Steve Snyder. I m with ONI Risk Partners. As President Ungethiem said, over the last six months we have engaged several clinic providers to provide us proposals for the city, the county, the Building Authority, who share in the use of the clinic. We did seek and got proposals from the incumbent, QuadMed, as well as Pro Care, which is a local clinic provider, and also from Tri-State Community Clinics. During this process we gave each vendor an opportunity to amend their proposals, trying to get as best price possible. But, in the end it was Tri-State that came out as the clear

15 Page 15 of 38 winner in terms of cost and other provisions as well. If you want me to go into the details, I can certainly do that. President Ungethiem: I don t know that we need to go into the details, but suffice it to say we ve done our homework on this. Steve Snyder: We ve done our homework on this. This proposal is capped at $615,000 for three years. Currently you re on track to spend about $776,400 this year. So, that s a savings to the county of $161,400 a year. Over that three year period of time it s a savings of over $484,000. President Ungethiem: Okay. Can you tell us about the additional locations? Steve Snyder: Well, the other thing that really was attractive about the Tri-State Community Clinic proposal was they are going to add two additional locations for that cost. So, there will be no additional cost to the county, and it will get two new locations. We re currently flexible, but we re talking about having one on the north side and another one on the west side. We certainly need to try to drive as many, not only employees, but their dependents as well to the clinic. We think that by adding these locations it will certainly increase the participation. So, we re really looking forward to moving that forward. The other thing is, Tri-State Community Clinics is willing to work to try to maintain as much of the provider staff, because I think you ve heard a lot of comments of how good the clinic has been for your employees and their dependents. So, we re working in that direction. So, really that s the long and the short of it. President Ungethiem: Okay, so, the synopsis is that we will be having, we will continue to have a clinic for Vanderburgh County employees that are non-teamster employees, those folks that are covered under the Anthem Blue Cross/Blue Shield coverage, that we will go from one site here in the building, to three sites that are available. This is one thing that was very important, because although we have a very good participation rate in the clinics of the people who are in this building, because it s convenient, we had a much lesser participation rate of those spouse s and dependents, simply because they had to come down to this building to participate. So, having two satellite locations, with, I think, differing hours, or how the hours are going to be set up, is going to increase the participation rate, we re hoping, in the clinic, and thus decrease the claims cost to our insurance provider and to the county. Any questions or comments from the Commissioners? Commissioner Shoulders: I ll add, thank you, Steve, for the synopsis today. Thanks to Dr. Perkins who is also here today. You know, we triple our locations from one to three, we save the county a half a million dollars over three years, and we deal with a local firm. I think it s a monster win for Vanderburgh County and for the City of Evansville. Commissioner Musgrave: Thank you for your work. You know, several months ago when we triggered the off ramp clause of the contract with the current provider, we did not know that this possibility was out there. Thanks to all of the meetings and the good discussions, we see this win for the taxpayer. Thanks. Steve Snyder: Thank you for your consideration, and thanks for your time. President Ungethiem: Okay. Joe Harrison, Jr.: (Inaudible. Microphone not on.) President Ungethiem: Pardon? Joe Harrison, Jr.: (Inaudible. Microphone not on.) President Ungethiem: Oh, that was a good question. Joe had asked if the, this is going to be a clinic that is shared by Commissioner Shoulders: The city. President Ungethiem: --city employees, Building Authority employees Steve Snyder: And the airport.

16 Page 16 of 38 President Ungethiem: --and the airport employees. At this point in time I think the city has already gone through their process and they have approved that. So, we would be Steve Snyder: That is correct. And we have structured it a little bit differently, so there s no interim agreement that we had before, you would have your own contract. President Ungethiem: Okay. Steve Snyder: And have the ability to Commissioner Shoulders: And what about the Building Authority and the Airport, are they already Joe Harrison, Jr.: They re gonna. Steve Snyder: The Building Authority, I don t know if they ve signed it or taken it to their Board Commissioner Shoulders: But, they re on board? Steve Snyder: --they were supposed to, but I haven t gotten any feedback yet. Commissioner Shoulders: So, you saved the best for last? Steve Snyder: That s right. Commissioner Shoulders: Alright. President Ungethiem: Okay, we need a motion. Commissioner Shoulders: So moved. Commissioner Musgrave: Second. President Ungethiem: We have a motion and a second. Any discussion or any further comment? Commissioner Shoulders: It s a win-win for everyone in my opinion. Brian Gerth: I have a comment. Yeah, and I know all of the employees really like having a clinic and having more options, and it s going to be great. Just since I was in on any of the conversations, I guess, my question to the Commissioners is how are we going to roll this out to the employees? Because I know they are going to have questions about, are we going to have to go through an initial visit? Steve Snyder: Great question. Brian Gerth: How is all of that going to work? Commissioner Musgrave: Welcome back. Steve Snyder: I might be able to help you out with that answer. Brian Gerth: Sorry. President Ungethiem: We have a couple of people who are willing to discuss that issue. Steve Snyder: You know, obviously, the contract has to be approved before we do anything. You know, the city has already announced it to their employees, and we will provide and have provided what that communication says, so that you ll be able to use what other people have developed to tailor it to your own needs. We ve also, Dr. Perkins might speak to the fact that, you know, we are willing to have employee meetings to roll that out. You might talk about your plans in that area. Chad Perkins: Thank you. Chad Perkins, the Chief Medical Officer of Tri-State Community Clinics, and again, on behalf of the Commissioners, thank you for the opportunity. I thank all of you for your time and consideration of this. To your question, we aren t willing, but we insist that we have those meetings. I think anytime you re starting something like this, communication is key, but particularly where there is question of one