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1 a decade on from the financial crisis Carl Emmerson Presentation to A level students, London, 26 November

2 What happened? Financial crisis hits in 2008 UK enters a large recession Economy more than 6% smaller in 2009 Q2 than 2008 Q1 Leads to much higher borrowing Why? In cash terms, receipts lower but spending hardly affected As a share of national income not much change to tax but spending much higher Government set out spending plans when it expected the economy to be bigger than it was So we ended up with a larger state than we could afford given our tax burden

3 =100 GDP per capita hardly above where it was a decade ago GDP per capita: Latest forecasts and pre-2008 trend 2.1% trend 5,900 per person Source: Office for Budget Responsibility Economic and Fiscal Outlook and Public finances databank

4 billion, prices Lower GDP means lower tax receipts Public spending Public receipts 400 Source: Office for Budget Responsibility Public finances databank

5 Per cent of national income Spending exploded as a share of national income Public spending Public receipts Source: Office for Budget Responsibility Public finances databank

6 Per cent of natonal income High deficits led to debt increasing as a share of national income 100 Public sector net debt Notes and Sources: See Figure 3.6 of the IFS Green Budget

7 Why might this be a problem? Main cost of higher borrowing is higher debt Nothing wrong with a positive level of debt per se But if the debt level becomes too high, investors may lose confidence Could mean higher interest rates Or a very bad (though unlikely) outcome would be that the government couldn t borrow at all Much debate about what too high means Though a 10% of GDP deficit is clearly unsustainable Intergenerational equity issues too

8 Fiscal consolidation since 2010 Substantial effort to reduce the deficit since 2010 Government always has choices and can choose priorities Between taxing more or spending less Which taxes, and whose taxes, to increase Whether to protect some areas of spending

9 Per cent of national income Achieved largely through a substantial spending squeeze Public spending Public receipts Source: Office for Budget Responsibility Public finances databank

10 A net tax rise since 2010 A combination of big tax cuts and bigger tax rises Biggest tax cuts: Above inflation increases in the personal allowance (~ 25bn) Fuel duties (since 2010, ~ 9bn) Main rate of corporation tax cut from 28% to 19% (~ 17bn) Biggest tax rises Increase in VAT rate from 17½% to 20% (~ 15bn) Restrictions to pension tax relief (~ 7bn) End of contracting out (~ 5½bn) Avoidance and evasion (~ 10bn)

11 billion ( terms) Substantial cuts to working age social security Measures announced post 2015 Measure announced Source: Authors calculations using OBR Historical Measures Database

12 Percentage of national income billion ( prices) Large cuts to departmental spending Total departmental expenditure limits 30% Real billion (right axis) % % 15% % of national income (left axis) % 5% Departmental spending in is 42 billion lower than in % 150 Notes and sources: See Figure 4.5 of the Green Budget

13 Cuts to day-to-day spending since 2010 Real terms departmental resource budget changes, to International Development Health and Social Care Education Defence Average Culture Home Office DEFRA HMT and HMRC and DWP Justice MHCLG: Communities -50% -40% -30% -20% -10% 0% 10% 20% 30% Overall spending by English councils fell by 19% between and Notes and sources: See Figure 4.10 of the Green Budget

14 Cuts to day-to-day spending since 2010 Real terms departmental resource budget changes, to International Development Health and Social Care Education Defence Average Culture Home Office DEFRA HMT and HMRC and DWP Justice MHCLG: Communities -50% -40% -30% -20% -10% 0% 10% 20% 30% Overall spending by English councils fell by 19% between and Notes and sources: See Figure 4.10 of the Green Budget

15 Cuts to day-to-day spending since 2010 Real terms departmental resource budget changes, to International Development Health and Social Care Education Defence Average Culture Home Office DEFRA HMT and HMRC and DWP Justice MHCLG: Communities -50% -40% -30% -20% -10% 0% 10% 20% 30% Overall spending by English councils fell by 19% between and Notes and sources: See Figure 4.10 of the Green Budget

16 billion Successive forecasts for the deficit Out-turn June March 2014 October March 2012 March 2016

17 What should the government do now? Deficit back to pre-crisis levels But debt is still much higher As a result of the very large deficits run since 2008 Government has a target to eliminate the deficit entirely by the mid- 2020s Is this necessary? Debt would hardly fall as %GDP with deficit at current level But we have had debt at higher levels before

18 Per cent of national income Is debt too high? Source: Bank of England Millenium of Macroeconomic Data and OBR Public finances databank

19 An ageing population the longer-run challenge People are living longer This is good news! But it poses challenges for the public finances Older people are expensive they use more health care and receive pensions These trends have been going on for a while But options for cutting other spending more limited now

20 Public spending on health (30=1) Older people use more healthcare Age (years) Source: UK Health and Social Care Spending, IFS Publication 2018

21 Per cent of national income Projected cost of meeting demand for Health and Pensions over next 50 years Other public service spending if total spend constant Health Pensions 2 0 Source: Office for Budget Responsibility Fiscal Sustainability Report, July 2018 and author s calculations

22 % of total government spending Defence and health moving in opposite directions Health spending Defence spending Source: Securing the future: future health and social care to the 2030s

23 No easy choices Big demands for higher spending Could choose not to meet these demands, or cut spending elsewhere In long-run, higher borrowing not an option So maybe higher taxes Need an honest conversation about which taxes and who should pay Likely means most people paying at least a bit more

24 Conclusions Government budgeting involves trading off higher spending, lower taxes and higher debt Spending more than government receives is the norm Main cost of higher deficits is higher debt Possible cost of higher debt is future adverse event The financial crisis caused a big hole in the public finances Increase in spending as %GDP, mostly reduced through spending restraint More painful than expected due to weak growth Big public finance challenge on the horizon Pressures from an ageing population call for a serious public debate about possible tax rises

25 a decade on from the financial crisis Carl Emmerson Presentation to A level students, London, 26 November

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