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When investing/trading shares:- How to: Minimise our risk? (so we can sleep at night) Set the Stop Loss price level? or an Exit Strategy of some sort Estimate our Price Target? Optimise the Position Size? So, how can we do all this? (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 2 Session purpose (a) To consider a real-life trading example using historical price data. (b) We will consider: Initial stop loss Position size calculation Reward / Risk Ratio We might look at trailing stop loss. (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 3 (c) Copyright 2014-2018, Robert B Brain 1

Session purpose... (c) To share ideas and experiences. (d) To compare opinions, and understand how other people do it. (e) To give you some food for thought. So, please feel free to contribute to the discussion with your own experiences and opinions! (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 4 My challenge Some audience members: will be experienced traders will be novices There will be a variety of opinions about best practise these are opinions. There will be several correct answers. (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 5 (c) Copyright 2014-2018, Robert B Brain 2

Teams 1. Ideally, form into competitive teams:- of 3 or 4 people in the seats where you are (turn round and say hello to your team members). 2. Preferably also have: Trading Work Sheet (or a piece of paper), Pen (or pencil), A calculator might be handy. (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 9 (c) Copyright 2014-2018, Robert B Brain 3

The paper work... Trading Work Sheet Same as last time (in 2016). Download a copy from here: www.robertbrain.com/files/trading-worksheet-sample.pdf (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 10 (c) Copyright 2014-2018, Robert B Brain 4

NOTE: [R]isk per trade 2%? In this example we are using what is widely referred to as the 2 Percent Rule ; and We are using the amount of 2 percent; but A more conservative approach would be to use a value less than 2%, and perhaps as low as just 1%. Also see: https://www.incrediblecharts.com/trading/2_percent_rule.php Also see: Colin Nicholson s web site discussion: http://www.bwts.com.au/index.cfm/resources/ask-colin/817-could-you-explain-the-6-rule-as-opposed-to-the-2-rule-and-sugges/ (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 13 (c) Copyright 2014-2018, Robert B Brain 5

Diagram explanation 1) Identify three key price points: Target price = $20 Likely purchase (or entry) price = $13 Initial stop = $9.50 (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 16 2) Determine: Diagram explanation Reward amount [R]isk amount 3) Calculate: Reward/Risk Ratio Ideally greater than 2 (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 17 Reward/Risk Ratio = $7.00 $3.50 = 2 Diagram explanation The greater the reward, the better the ratio. Great if 3, 4 or 5+ (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 18 (c) Copyright 2014-2018, Robert B Brain 6

Case Study Case Study Exercise #4 Are we ready? (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 20 Case Study Assumptions Our Case Study Trading Plan says: Invest / trade in Australian equities We only have $10,000 total capital We won t use any leverage Trend following strategy Find an up-trending stock Join the trend. (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 21 (c) Copyright 2014-2018, Robert B Brain 7

Case Study Your interests If you are following this case study seriously: You can study the following price charts, and You can determine your preferred: Exit strategy Initial Stop Loss level Position size You can write your own values onto the Trading Work Sheet After an exit, will you (or your team) be better off than the next person (team)? (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 22 Weekly* chart Nov 2011 - Jan 2013 Break out above resistance Uptrending stock also: 30 week MA now rising Uptrend What about the bigger picture? See next slide... (The market is like an elephant) Nov 2011 Jan 2013 * - On a weekly candlestick chart, every candle (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 23 summarises the price action in one week. Bigger picture January 2010 January 2013 Jan 2010 Nov 2011 Jan 2013 (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 24 (c) Copyright 2014-2018, Robert B Brain 8

The planning steps Up-trending stock confirmed We have decided to take the trade. So let s consider: (a) Position Size how much? (b) Initial Stop Loss where? (c) what about a Target Price? (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 25 The planning steps In the next slides we will: 1. Estimate Preferred Entry (purchase) Price 2. Set Initial Stop Loss value 3. Calculate dollar amount to RISK per share 4. Estimate a Target Price 5. Calculate the possible REWARD per share 6. Calculate the REWARD / RISK ratio. BUT, there are some questions:-... (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 26 but some QUESTIONS!! 1. How much money (ie. total amount) do we need for our investing/trading activity? * At least:- (a) $ 500 (b) $ 1,000 (c) $ 5,000 (d) $ 10,000 (e) $ 50,000 (f) $100,000? * - Shares, no leverage. (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 27 (c) Copyright 2014-2018, Robert B Brain 9

Our capital In our Case Study we will use a value of $10,000 investment capital (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 28 QUESTION #2 1. How much money (ie. total amount) do we need for our investing/trading activity? 2. What s our minimum position size? (a) $ 500 (b) $ 1,000 (c) $ 2,000 (d) $ 5,000 (e) (f) $ 10,000 or? it doesn t matter! (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 29 Position Size In our case study, using this Trading Plan, we want Position Size greater than $1,500 (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 30 (c) Copyright 2014-2018, Robert B Brain 10

QUESTION #3 1. How much money (ie. total amount) do we need for our investing/trading activity? 2. What s our minimum position size? 3. How much of our total investment capital are we happy to have in each position? (a) up to 5% of total capital (b) up to 10% of total capital (c) up to 20% of total capital (d) up to 30% of total capital (e) more than 30%.? See risk discussion points next slide / (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 31 Discussion on risk How much of our total investment capital are we happy to have in each position? (a)? What are the three biggest risks to capital loss? (b)? (c)? (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 32 The (three) biggest risks: Discussion on risk (a) The market collapses and most of our positions plunge in value in short term BUT: Will the falling values continue? If so, for how long? What if they fall significantly? What if this fall is very short term, and everything will be up tomorrow? We should have a plan to deal with this; but no discussion now. (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 33 (c) Copyright 2014-2018, Robert B Brain 11

The (three) biggest risks: Discussion on risk (a) The market collapses and most of our positions plunge in value in short term (we should have a plan to deal with this no disc n now) (b) Any one stock goes into trading halt and does not recover entire position gone (nothing we can do about this? so limit the potential damage) (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 34 The (three) biggest risks: Discussion on risk (a) The market collapses and most of our positions plunge in value in short term (we should have a plan to deal with this no disc n now) (b) Any one stock goes into trading halt and does not recover entire position gone (nothing we can do about this? so limit the potential damage) How can we limit the potential damage of (b)? Limit the % amount of capital in one position? (c) (The third risk later...) (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 35 How much capital per pos n? Limit the amount of capital in any one position to 20% max (but 10% might be preferable) 1. What s the total amount of money needed for our investing/trading? 2. What s our minimum position size? 3. How much of our total investment capital are we happy to have in each position? (a) up to 5% of total capital (b) up to 10% of total capital (c) up to 20% of total capital (d) up to 30% of total capital (e) more than 30%. (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 36 (c) Copyright 2014-2018, Robert B Brain 12

How much capital per pos n? Re: How much of our total investment capital in any one position? (a) If it is up to 20%, then we can only have five positions, and it is relatively high risk (b) If it is up to 10%, then we can have up to 10 positions, and is lower risk, but might miss the Ten Bagger Option (b) gives more flexibility. (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 37 Discussion on risk (cont.) The three biggest risks: (a) The market collapses and most of our positions plunge in value in short term (we should have a plan to deal with this) (b) Any one stock goes into trading halt and does not recover entire position gone (nothing we can do about this? so limit the potential damage) (c) The share price of one position falls (eg. into a confirmed downtrend ) What do we do? Implement Exit Strategy! (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 38 Risk management 1. In our case study strategy, if the share price falls, we will exit the position to protect capital! (our exit strategy defines this, and it could have several exit conditions) 2. So, how much are we prepared to lose? (our documented strategy ought to have a rule) (a) A dollar amount? or (b) A percentage amount? (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 39 (c) Copyright 2014-2018, Robert B Brain 13

BTW Exit Strategy By The Way a note on Exit Strategies In this study we will rely on: ATR based indicator (Wilson ATR Trailing Stop) Two consecutive daily closes below the Stop. Note down your own Exit conditions for this case study workshop; eg: trend failure price below uptrend line 30 week MA flattening and price below MA (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 40 It falls we sell If the share price falls and we close the position, how much money have we actually lost? In this example the Actual Entry Price was $13.00 Actual Entry Price (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 41 It falls we sell If the share price falls and we close the position, how much money have we actually lost? The amount at RISK Assuming that we can sell at our Stop Loss value (ie. no slippage). Actual Entry Price (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 42 (c) Copyright 2014-2018, Robert B Brain 14

The amount at risk Many experts suggest to set the amount at risk at something like 2% of total capital This has led to the 2 Percent Rule * More conservative approach use 1.5% or 1% Larger portfolios can use a smaller value (eg. 1%). * - The 2 Percent Rule is very widely used. More details: Van K. Tharp, Trade your way to Financial Freedom (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 43 R = The amount at risk It is common to refer to the amount of money at risk per share as the R value And, for example, an amount of three times this is referred to as: 3R (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 44 Summary of our Risk (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 45 (c) Copyright 2014-2018, Robert B Brain 15

Back to the case study Now determine three things: Preferred Entry Price (PEP) Initial Stop Loss (IS) RISK per share (R) (see larger chart on next slide) (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 46 (c) Copyright 2014-2018, Robert B Brain 16

For this case study example Daily chart Let s assume PEP = $3.50 Risk = 50 cents Let s assume IS = $3.00 (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 50 Amount at risk Note down your own Risk amount (cents per share) Item (1) on the Work Sheet (eg. 50 cents) (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 51 (c) Copyright 2014-2018, Robert B Brain 17

Target Price? What is your estimate for the Target Price? (see chart on next slide) (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 52 Target Price? My target price = $4.50? BTW Is a Target Price useful? (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 53 More paper work... Estimate your REWARD (item (2) on sheet): Target Price (TP) =? Preferred Entry Price (PEP) =? (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 54 (c) Copyright 2014-2018, Robert B Brain 18

More paper work... Estimate your REWARD (item (2) on sheet): Target Price (TP) =? Preferred Entry Price (PEP) =? REWARD per share = [Target Price] [Preferred Entry Price] Note down your REWARD amount... ($.c per share or cents per share) Item (2) on the Work Sheet (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 55 More paper work... Estimate your REWARD (item (2) on sheet): Target Price (TP) =? (eg. $4.50 = 450c) Preferred Entry Price (PEP) =? (eg. $3.50 = 350c) REWARD per share = [Target Price] [Preferred Entry Price] (eg. $4.50 - $3.50 = $1.00 per share, or 450-350=100c) Note down your REWARD amount... ($.c per share or cents per share) Item (2) on the Work Sheet (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 56 Reward to Risk Ratio Calculate your: Reward Risk Item (3) on the Work Sheet eg. 100c / 50c = 2 or $1.00 / $0.50 = 2 => not bad (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 57 (c) Copyright 2014-2018, Robert B Brain 19

Position* Size Position* size (the number of shares to buy): Total amount at risk** [R]isk per share (eg. $200 / $0.50 = 20,000c / 50c = 400 ) ** Total amount at risk in this study = 2% of $10,000 = $200 * In this Case Study, we are about to buy one parcel of shares; and we will not add to it, so this will be the total of our position. (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 58 Current value of this parcel* The Position* Size x PEP = $ (eg. 400 x $3.50 = $1,400 ) QUESTION: Is this value less than Work Sheet item (b)? our Maximum Capital per position? * In this Case Study, we are about to buy one parcel of shares; and we will not add to it, so this will be the total of our position. (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 59 Daily chart $3.25 What if the Initial Stop = $3.25? How might that change things? (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 60 (c) Copyright 2014-2018, Robert B Brain 20

Alternative Stop Loss Initial Stop (IS) = $3.00 $3.25 (a) Entry Price $3.50 $3.50 (b) Amount at risk per share [R] = (a) - (IS) (c) Total $ amount to risk (from Work Sheet) (d) Position Size = (c) / (b) (e) Position Value = (d) x (a) 50 cents 25 cents $200 $200 400 800 $1,400 $2,800 Conclusion: A different Initial Stop can give different Position Size, for the same R value Total $ amount to risk. (Imagine the resulting difference in profit) (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 61 Trade Work Sheet On right hand side of the Work Sheet: If we place the trade, record the Actual Entry Price Complete other details at the top right of the sheet 29 Jan 2013, $3.55, etc... Now let's go forward 6 months... (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 62 We purchased... Okay we bought a parcel of 400 shares 29 Jan 2013 at $3.55 Now view the charts... (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 63 (c) Copyright 2014-2018, Robert B Brain 21

Log price scale Forward 6 months All good for now Any need to exit? Let s go forward another 3 months... (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 64 After 9 months (was up ~30%) Would you have exited here? (if so, update your sheet) Nov 2013 (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 65 After 9 months (was up ~30%) Would you have exited here? (if so, update your sheet) Nov 2013 Any discussion, questions? (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 66 (c) Copyright 2014-2018, Robert B Brain 22

Follow My Trade Any discussion / questions? Now let s go forward another 12 months... (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 67 After 2 years (up ~75%) Nov 2013 The price crashed for a few weeks, and then resumed the earlier uptrend. Let s zoom in the chart... (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 68 After 2 years Sept 2013 Jan 2015 (up ~75%) Nov 2013 Any discussion, questions? (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 69 (c) Copyright 2014-2018, Robert B Brain 23

Follow My Trade Any discussion / questions? Now let s go forward another 12 months... (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 70 Jan 2015 Jan 2016 (up another 40+%) Your Exit Strategy might have taken you out with the intraweek spike shown? Let s view the daily chart... (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 71 Daily candles (black/white) Daily chart (weekly superimposed) June 2015 Weekly candles (purple) 30 week SMA The intraweek spike, was one intraday low. Does this make you re-think your Exit Strategy? (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 72 (c) Copyright 2014-2018, Robert B Brain 24

Jan 2015 Jan 2016 (up another 40+%) Your Exit Strategy might have taken you out with the intraweek single-day spike shown? (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 73 That's all for now That's all the price action we have for now. (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 74 Conclusion & Wrap UP Where did you end up? Was your Stop hit? Was your Exit Strategy triggered? Conclusions? Comments? (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 75 (c) Copyright 2014-2018, Robert B Brain 25

More Information For more information about this subject, and related topics, see: www.robertbrain.com/presentations/ And another version of these slides will soon be available, incorporating the Speaker Notes for each slide; but only for subscribing members to Brainy s Share Market Toolbox. (c) Copyright 2010-2018, Robert B. Brain 76 (c) Copyright 2014-2018, Robert B Brain 26