2 3 4 5 6 7 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - X REORGANIZATION MEETING OF THE : Thursday BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS OF THE HOUSING : May 9, 203 AUTHORITY OF THE CITY OF HOBOKEN : 5:30 p.m. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - X Held At: Monroe Gardens Community Room 22 Jackson Street Hoboken, New Jersey 8 9 0 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 20 B E F O R E: Carmelo Garcia, Deputy Executive Director Former Chairman Jake Stuiver Vice Chair/Chairman Robert Davis, III Commissioner Jean Rodriguez Commissioner Eduardo Gonzalez Commissioner Judith Burrell Commissioner David Mello Commissioner Gregory Lincoln A P P E A R A N C E S: CHARLES P. DAGLIAN, ESQ. Attorney for the Board. A L S O P R E S E N T: EMIL KOTHERITHARA 2 22 23 24 25 PHYLLIS T. LEWIS CERTIFIED SHORTHAND REPORTER CERTIFIED REALTIME REPORTER Phone: (732) 735-4522 of 0 sheets Page to of 8 05//203 04:9:25 PM
2 CHAIRMAN STUIVER: All rise to salute 4 CHAIRMAN STUIVER: Is there a second -- 2 the flag. 2 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR: Is there a second 3 (Pledge of Alliegance recited) 3 on that? 4 (Board members confer and all talking 4 CHAIRMAN STUIVER: -- for Commissioner 5 at once.) 5 Lincoln? 6 CHAIRMAN STUIVER: I would like to 6 COMMISSIONER MELLO: Second for Greg 7 advise those present that notice of this Regular 7 Lincoln. 8 Meeting of the Housing Authority of the City of 8 COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: Well, you don't 9 Hoboken has been provided to the public in 9 need a second, but I would second for Bob Davis. 0 accordance with the provisions of the Open Public 0 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR GARCIA: Okay. So Meetings Act. it seems like there is a tie to the finish line. 2 Notice of this Annual Reorganization 2 CHAIRMAN STUIVER: So let's -- 3 Meeting of Thursday, May 9th, 203, was sent to The 3 COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ: Excuse me. 4 Jersey Journal as a public notice on Wednesday, May 4 Can I say a statement first? 5 st, 203, as notification to the general public of 5 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR GARCIA: Can you 6 said meeting and sent to the City Clerk of Hoboken 6 pass the microphone? 7 on Wednesday, May st, 203, with a copy of the 7 Is there another microphone, Robert? 8 agenda to be posted on the aforementioned bulletin 8 COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ: Wait a minute. 9 board. 9 Wait a minute. 20 I direct the minutes of this meeting to 20 I would like to know if Mr. Lincoln had 2 state that I have announced that adequate notice of 2 done his classes, and if he is finished with his 22 this meeting has been given as required by the Open 22 classes, because if not, he cannot be the Chair. 23 Public Meetings Act. 23 CHAIRMAN STUIVER: Mr. Daglian, is that 24 Now I am going to open the floor to 24 an accurate statement? 25 nominations for Chairman, and I nominate Greg 25 MR. DAGLIAN: There is nothing in the 3 Lincoln. 5 bylaws that says that someone can't be the Chair, 2 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR GARCIA: Hold on. 2 and there is no indication. However, I will let 3 I'm sorry. Give me a moment. 3 Commissioner Gonzalez make a statement. However, it 4 Mr. Chairman, once you read the Open 4 does say that he has to be duly -- hold on, I will 5 Public Meetings Act, if we follow along, the Board 5 get the phrase. 6 Secretary -- you have to direct the Board Secretary 6 COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: Duly elected 7 to open up the floor for the nominations. 7 and qualified. 8 CHAIRMAN STUIVER: Mr. Secretary, would 8 MR. DAGLIAN: -- duly elected and 9 you open up the floor for the nominations, please? 9 qualified. It is not defined. "Qualified" could 0 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR GARCIA: Thank you. 0 mean that he is a Commissioner. "Qualified" could The first order of business was the mean that he is fully able to perform all of the 2 nomination and election for a Chair and a Vice Chair 2 functions, which would be as the Chairman, and if he 3 to serve up to the next annual meeting on Thursday, 3 hasn't taken all of his glasses, "qualified" could 4 May 9th, 203 -- 4 mean that he is not up to speed on all of the 5 THE AUDIENCE: 204. 5 classes, so "qualified" could be interpreted as 6 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR: -- the Chairman 6 that. 7 directs the Board Secretary to conduct the election 7 I cannot give you a legal definition of 8 of the officers for the coming year. 8 what "qualified" means, except to say that 9 Are there any nominations on the floor? 9 "qualified" does mean that you are fully able to 20 CHAIRMAN STUIVER: I nominate Greg 20 perform all of the functions. So there is no 2 Lincoln. 2 definition in law. There is no definition in 22 COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ: I nominate Rob 22 Roberts Rules, but you must be qualified. 23 Davis. 23 "Qualified" means that you have all the 24 THE AUDIENCE: Davis, Davis, Davis. 24 certifications, all of the Commissioner's and all of 25 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR GARCIA: Okay. 25 that. 05//203 04:9:25 PM Page 2 to 5 of 8 2 of 0 sheets
6 CHAIRMAN STUIVER: Okay. Thank you, 8 Now, can we have a vote on nominations? 2 Mr. Daglian. 2 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR: There was a tie -- 3 Now let's call the vote. 3 CHAIRMAN STUIVER: The first nomination 4 MS. MORRISSETTE: No. I would like to 4 was for Greg Lincoln. 5 speak. 5 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR GARCIA: -- Mr. 6 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR GARCIA: Hold on, 6 Chairman, as the Board Secretary, you have a tie on 7 Mr. Chairman. 7 the floor. 8 Two things, just for the record, I 8 CHAIRMAN STUIVER: As the Board 9 think many of you who have done your courses at the 9 Secretary, your job is to follow the instructions of 0 New Jersey, what is called EDP, with respect to the 0 the Chairman, which is to call the vote on educational courses, understand that with what Commissioner Lincoln. 2 corporation counsel just noted as qualified. 2 THE AUDIENCE: No, no, no, no. 3 The question on the table is whether 3 (Audience yelling and screaming.) 4 Commissioner Lincoln had done any of his courses. 4 MS. MORRISSETTE: You are to follow 5 Hopefully, I know that he will be taking the first 5 that procedure. You are to follow the petition. 6 course as the spring or summer schedule comes out. 6 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR GARCIA: That is 7 But as the Board Secretary, I think it is important 7 incorrect, Mr. Chairman. 8 to probably get that question answered on what is 8 (Audience yelling and screaming.) 9 the definition, whether we can get that answered 9 THE AUDIENCE: That's stupid. Why was 20 through DCA or through Rutgers, and I think that is 20 Maryann removed? 2 something that you might want to take into account. 2 (Audience yelling and screaming.) 22 Also, I think the Secretary of the 22 MR. DAGLIAN: Once you turn it over to 23 Christopher Columbus Garden's Tenant Association 23 the Secretary, he conducts it. 24 would like to say something, which represents the 24 CHAIRMAN STUIVER: Call the vote. 25 Resident Advisory Board, which they have a right as 25 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR GARCIA: Okay. So 7 Resident Advisory Board Officers to speak with the 9 on the nomination for Jean Rodriguez as Chair -- I 2 Board prior to nomination of any officers, so I 2 mean, for Rob Davis as Chairperson, we will call the 3 would like to recognize Ms. Morrissette. 3 vote. 4 MS. MORRISSETTE: Deborah Morrissette, 4 MS. MORRISSETTE: Yes. We have the 5 M-o-r-r-i-s-s-e-t-t-e. 455 Ninth Street. 5 right -- 6 We, the undersigned residents of the 6 (Audience all talking at once.) 7 Hoboken Housing Authority, request the removal of 7 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR GARCIA: 8 the current chairperson and support the appointment 8 Commissioner -- excuse me, if we may please, 9 of Rob Davis as the new chairperson. 9 respectfully, we will call the roll call. 0 In addition, we request the next 0 There is a nomination on the floor from commissioner to be a resident of the Hoboken Housing Jean Rodriguez, Commissioner, for Rob Davis, as well 2 Authority. This is our right. We have the right to 2 as a second, and then we will do both. 3 vote on this, and we are presenting you with this 3 On the roll call, Commissioner Lincoln? 4 petition -- 4 COMMISSIONER LINCOLN: For Rob Davis? 5 CHAIRMAN STUIVER: Thank you. 5 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR: Yes. 6 (Applause) 6 MR. DAGLIAN: If you vote yes, you are 7 CHAIRMAN STUIVER: Mr. Secretary, thank 7 voting for Rob Davis. 8 you for your comments -- 8 If you vote no, you are voting against 9 MS. MORRISSETTE: -- and apparently 9 Rob Davis. 20 Maryann was removed for the same reason that Mr. 20 COMMISSIONER LINCOLN: Thank you, 2 Lincoln is here, so I think that should be addressed 2 Chairman. 22 also. 23 (Applause) 24 CHAIRMAN STUIVER: Thank you very much. 25 Can we have a vote on nominations now? 22 No. 23 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR GARCIA: 24 Commissioner Mello? 25 COMMISSIONER MELLO: No. 3 of 0 sheets Page 6 to 9 of 8 05//203 04:9:25 PM
0 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR: Commissioner 2 for nominations of the Vice Chair, and I would like 2 Burrell? 2 to nominate Jean Rodriguez for Vice Chair. 3 COMMISSIONER BURRELL: Yes. 3 (Applause and cheering) 4 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR GARCIA: 4 CHAIRMAN DAVIS: Any other nominations? 5 Commissioner Gonzalez? 5 COMMISSIONER LINCOLN: I would like to 6 COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: Yes. 6 nominate David Mello. 7 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR GARCIA: 7 CHAIRMAN DAVIS: David Mello. 8 Commissioner Rodriguez? 8 MR. DAGLIAN: One vote for Jean 9 COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ: Yes. 9 Rodriguez and one for -- 0 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR GARCIA: Vice Chair 0 (Audience all talking at once.) Davis? MR. DAGLIAN: -- so the first vote, if 2 VICE CHAIR DAVIS: Yes. 2 you vote yes, you are voting for Jean Rodriguez. 3 THE AUDIENCE: All right. 3 If you are voting no, you are voting 4 (Applause) 4 against Jean Rodriguez, and then there will be a 5 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR GARCIA: Chairman 5 second vote. 6 Stuiver? 6 CHAIRMAN DAVIS: All right. 7 CHAIRMAN STUIVER: No. 7 Commissioner Lincoln? 8 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR GARCIA: On the roll 8 COMMISSIONER LINCOLN: No. 9 call, congratulations, Chairman Davis. 9 CHAIRMAN DAVIS: Ms. Burrell? 20 (Applause) 20 COMMISSIONER BURRELL: No. 2 THE AUDIENCE: We did it. 2 CHAIRMAN DAVIS: Commissioner Mello? 22 (Applause and audience cheering.) 22 COMMISSIONER MELLO: No. 23 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR GARCIA: Chairman 23 CHAIRMAN DAVIS: Commissioner Gonzalez? 24 Davis, I will now hand over the meeting back to you 24 COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: Yes. 25 to do the nominations for Vice Chair. 25 CHAIRMAN DAVIS: Commissioner THE AUDIENCE: All of us united. 3 Rodriguez? 2 (Audience applauding and talking at 2 COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ: Yes. 3 once.) 3 CHAIRMAN DAVIS: Yes for Jeanne, and 4 (Chairman Stuiver left the meeting) 4 yes for myself. 5 (Applause and cheering) 5 MR. DAGLIAN: So you have to take the 6 MS. MORRISSETTE: I just wanted to 6 vote for Commissioner Mello. 7 say -- 7 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR GARCIA: That is a 8 THE REPORTER: I can't hear you over 8 tie vote. 9 here. 9 Now, the vote for Commissioner Mello. 0 MS. MORRISSETTE: -- excuse me, excuse 0 CHAIRMAN DAVIS: Commissioner Lincoln? me. One minute. MR. DAGLIAN: If you vote yes, it is 2 The NBC, we request to be a Hoboken 2 for Commissioner Mello. If you are voting no, you 3 Housing Resident -- 3 are voting against him. 4 THE AUDIENCE: Immediately. 4 COMMISSIONER LINCOLN: Yes. 5 MS. MORRISSETTE: -- immediately, which 5 CHAIRMAN DAVIS: Commissioner Burrell? 6 we would like to have Barbara. 6 COMMISSIONER BURRELL: Yes. 7 (Applause) 7 CHAIRMAN DAVIS: Commissioner Mello? 8 MS. MORRISSETTE: Barbara, take your 8 COMMISSIONER MELLO: Yes. 9 seat. 9 CHAIRMAN DAVIS: Commissioner Gonzalez? 20 (Applause and cheering) 20 COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: No. 2 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR GARCIA: We can't do 2 CHAIRMAN DAVIS: Commissioner 22 that. 22 Rodriguez? 23 CHAIRMAN DAVIS: All right. Let's 23 COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ: No. 24 bring it down, Folks. Let's bring it down, Folks. 24 CHAIRMAN DAVIS: Commissioner Davis, 25 Now, I would like to open up the floor 25 nay. 05//203 04:9:25 PM Page 0 to 3 of 8 4 of 0 sheets
4 6 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR GARCIA: So at the Commissioner Lincoln? 2 moment that position will be unfilled until the -- 2 COMMISSIONER LINCOLN: Yes. 3 it is vacant, and the Chair will be -- until the 3 CHAIRMAN DAVIS: Commissioner Burrell? 4 Chair makes another nomination in the future 4 COMMISSIONER BURRELL: Yes. 5 meetings. 5 CHAIRMAN DAVIS: Commissioner Mello? 6 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR GARCIA: Chairman, 6 COMMISSIONER MELLO: Yes. 7 now a vote is needed for the schedule of meetings. 7 CHAIRMAN DAVIS: Commissioner Gonzalez? 8 CHAIRMAN DAVIS: Let's call the vote 8 COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: Yes. 9 for the meetings for the new year. 9 CHAIRMAN DAVIS: Commissioner 0 Greg Lincoln? 0 Rodriguez? MR. DAGLIAN: If you vote now, it is COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ: Yes. 2 for the resolution, which is attached to your 2 CHAIRMAN DAVIS: And I say yes as well. 3 agenda, which sets up the meetings pursuant to the 3 We are adjourning this meeting. 4 bylaws as the second Thursday of every month. 4 MS. BIARD: Mr. Davis, can I please say 5 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR GARCIA: Okay. 5 something? 6 COMMISSIONER LINCOLN: Yes. 6 MR. DAGLIAN: No. The meeting is 7 CHAIRMAN DAVIS: Greg? 7 closed. 8 COMMISSIONER LINCOLN: Yes. 8 MS. BIARD: You look good there. 9 CHAIRMAN DAVIS: Commissioner Burrell? 9 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR GARCIA: Excuse me. 20 COMMISSIONER BURRELL: Yes. 20 Hold on. 2 CHAIRMAN DAVIS: Commissioner Mello? 2 For the next meeting, if you don't 22 COMMISSIONER MELLO: Yes. 22 mind, we would ask that you guys can speak at that 23 CHAIRMAN DAVIS: Commissioner Gonzalez? 23 meeting. 24 COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ: Yes. 24 There was a motion and a second to 25 CHAIRMAN DAVIS: Commissioner 25 adjourn the meeting. 5 Rodriguez? 7 All in favor? 2 COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ: Yes. 2 (All Board members answered in the 3 CHAIRMAN DAVIS: And I say yes as well. 3 affirmative.) 4 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR GARCIA: Chairman, 4 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR GARCIA: Thank you. 5 the next one would be with respect to the 5 (The Reorganization Meeting was 6 committees. I guess normally the Chair would ask if 6 concluded at 5:50 p.m., and the Regular Monthly 7 anyone is interested in certain committees to let 7 Meeting is contained in another booklet) 8 you know, and then at the following meeting in June, 8 9 that is when you would appoint those individuals. 9 0 CHAIRMAN DAVIS: Yes. We can set that 0 up later. 2 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR GARCIA: Okay. You 2 3 would like to do the same. 3 4 So if anybody is interested in any of 4 5 the four committees that are established, which the 5 6 committees being Security, Facility and Landscaping, 6 7 Tenant Selection Committee, and that of the Finance 7 8 Committee. 8 9 (Board members confer and all talking 9 20 at once.) 20 2 CHAIRMAN DAVIS: All right. Let's take 2 22 a motion to close this meeting. 22 23 COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ: Motion. 23 24 COMMISSIONER LINCOLN: Second. 24 25 CHAIRMAN DAVIS: Roll call. 25 5 of 0 sheets Page 4 to 7 of 8 05//203 04:9:25 PM
2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 20 2 22 23 24 25 8 C E R T I F I C A T E I, PHYLLIS T. LEWIS, a Certified Court Reporter, Certified Realtime Court Reporter, and Notary Public of the State of New Jersey, do hereby certify that the foregoing is a true and accurate transcript of the testimony as taken stenographically by and before me at the time, place and date hereinbefore set forth. I DO FURTHER CERTIFY that I am neither a relative nor employee nor attorney nor counsel to any of the parties to this action, and that I am neither a relative nor employee of such attorney or counsel, and that I am not financially interested in the action. s/phyllis T. Lewis, CCR, CRCR - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - PHYLLIS T. LEWIS, C.C.R. XI0333 C.R.C.R. 30XR5300 Notary Public of the State of New Jersey My commission expires /5/205. Dated: 5/0/3 This transcript was prepared in accordance with NJ ADC 3:43-5.9. 05//203 04:9:25 PM Page 8 to 8 of 8 6 of 0 sheets
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