Discussion of Sovereign Debt Portfolios, Bond Risks and the Credibility of Monetary Policy by Wenxin Du, Carolin Pflueger and Jesse Schreger

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Discussion of Sovereign Debt Portfolios, Bond Risks and the Credibility of Monetary Policy by Wenxin Du, Carolin Pflueger and Jesse Schreger Adrien Auclert Stanford AEA Meetings, Chicago January 8, 2017 Adrien Auclert Stanford) Discussion of Du, Pflueger and Schreger January 8, 2017 1 / 11

What this paper does This paper: 1. Provides empirical evidence that countries with more countercyclical inflation issue less local-currency debt s L Corr βπ,y, s L) > 0 2. Presents a model offering a causal interpretation of this correlation relying on inflation credibility p p β π,y and s L 3. Calibrates the model to show that it can be quantitatively consistent with the empirical evidence 4. Provides supportive evidence in favor of the causal mechanism This discussion: Reviews the argument in some detail Offers comments and suggestions along the way Adrien Auclert Stanford) Discussion of Du, Pflueger and Schreger January 8, 2017 2 / 11

Key empirical fact es, Inflation Betas, and Bond-S&P Betas Local Currency Debt Share 20 40 60 80 100 B) NOK SGD JPY CHF KRW EUR MYR NY THB HB AUD CAD NZD RUB IDR COP MXN PLN ILS ZAR BRL PEN GBP CZK.2.1 0.1.2 Realized Inflation Output Beta D) PHP HUF TRY DKK SEK CLP CNY USD Clever use of financial market data to show this evidence in multiple ways Surprisingly robust across measures: a) Beta of LC bonds on stocks b) Revisions of 2-year fcasts c) Realized π vs realized Y Which one is the better one theoretically? UF cy Debt Share 60 80 100 NOK CHF EUR CNYSGD THB AUD USD CAD NZD GBP DKK ZAR JPY KRW MYR CZK PHP SEK Adrien Auclert Stanford) PLN COP Discussion IDR of HUF RUB Du, Pflueger and Schreger January 8, 2017 3 / 11

Risks in government borrowing Consider stylized 2-period model to get intuitions t = 0: govtt needs to raise real amount V > 0 with local currency debt D L, foreign currency debt D F, and inflation-linked debt D R P 0 V = D L + E 0 D F + P 0 D R Pt is domestic price level, E t nominal exchange rate t = 1: govtt receives income Y 1, consumes C 1, repays debt C 1 = Y 1 1 + i) D L E 1 1 + i ) D F 1 + r) D R i home nominal, i foreign nominal, r home real risk-free For now, risk-neutral lenders. No arbitrage Fisher equation & UIP 1 + r) E [] P 0 = 1 + i = 1 + i ) E [E 1] E 0 Adrien Auclert Stanford) Discussion of Du, Pflueger and Schreger January 8, 2017 4 / 11

Risks in government borrowing At t = 0, form portfolio shares 1 = 1 D L V P }{{ 0 } s L + 1 E 0 D F V P }{{ 0 } s F + DR V }{{} s R At t = 1, using Fisher equation & UIP C 1 = Y 1 1 + r) s L E [] + s F E ) 1E [ ] E [E 1 ] + sr V 1. Unexpected inflation E[ ] ) lowers real burden of LC debt Fisher effect 2. Unexpected deprec. of RER E 1 ) raises real burden of FC debt Foreign-currency debt-deflation effect Adrien Auclert Stanford) Discussion of Du, Pflueger and Schreger January 8, 2017 5 / 11

Naive intuition Suppose FC borrowing unavailable s F = 0). Normalize r = 0. Government max E s L s.t. [ ] C 1 γ 1 1 γ C 1 = Y 1 s L E [] + 1 s L) ) V If Y 1, ) stochastic and exogenous: s L when Cov Y 1, ), since LC debt better hedge cf lit. on pf choice with background risks Campbell-Viceira etc) Key point of DPS: in data, correlation is the opposite! Their key observation: is not exogenous Adrien Auclert Stanford) Discussion of Du, Pflueger and Schreger January 8, 2017 6 / 11

Refined intuition: no commitment No commitment govtt plays game with future self Self 1 takes s L as given and max C 1 γ ) 1 1 2 1 γ α 1 s.t. C 1 = Y 1 s L E [] + 1 s L) ) V Adrien Auclert Stanford) Discussion of Du, Pflueger and Schreger January 8, 2017 7 / 11

Refined intuition: no commitment No commitment govtt plays game with future self Self 1 takes s L as given and max C 1 γ ) 1 1 2 1 γ α 1 s.t. C 1 = Y 1 s L E [] + 1 s L) ) V Solution no-commitment inflation rule ) = 1 1 sl V 2α E [] C γ 1 1 + E [ ] sl V 2α Y γ 1 Endogenously, Cov Y1, ) < 0 Self-0 likes this... but also internalizes effect on E [P1 ], so reduces s L Commitment/flexibility tradeoff Amador-Werning-Angeletos 06) Low commitment govtts have Cov Y 1, ) < 0 and low s L Adrien Auclert Stanford) Discussion of Du, Pflueger and Schreger January 8, 2017 7 / 11

Refined intuition, full commitment Under full commitment, time-0 govt has plan for z) [ max E C 1 γ ) ] 1 1 2 z),s L 1 γ α 1 s.t. C 1 z) = Y 1 z) s L E [] z) + 1 s L) ) V Force for high s L and complete hedging Cov Y 1, ) < 0 Intuition: decentralizes the risk-sharing problem with RN investors Adrien Auclert Stanford) Discussion of Du, Pflueger and Schreger January 8, 2017 8 / 11

Refined intuition, full commitment Under full commitment, time-0 govt has plan for z) [ max E C 1 γ ) ] 1 1 2 z),s L 1 γ α 1 s.t. C 1 z) = Y 1 z) s L E [] z) + 1 s L) ) V Force for high s L and complete hedging Cov Y 1, ) < 0 Intuition: decentralizes the risk-sharing problem with RN investors To increase Cov Y 1, ), introduce investors with risk aversion φ Intuition: risk-sharing rule country bears own output fluctuations But how can we flip the sign? Seems to defeat risk-sharing! Explain φ vs γ better. Adrien Auclert Stanford) Discussion of Du, Pflueger and Schreger January 8, 2017 8 / 11

Comments on model Overall: nice work given not-so-tractable model! You may be asking too much from it: Endogenous Cov Y1, ) > 0? Many reasons why this is true in devpd economies cf Phillips curve) Model highly stylized, so calibrating to data is very difficult Instead of calibration, would favor clear discussion of what empirical objects are relevant for the theory Realized inflation vs actual inflation vs beta of stocks and bonds Adrien Auclert Stanford) Discussion of Du, Pflueger and Schreger January 8, 2017 9 / 11

Long maturities Inflating away public debt with long maturities? In practice, mp can only affect nominal prices with a lag So, only long maturity LC debt is affected Quantitatively challenging to get much reduction in real debt from such policy in US eg Hilscher-Raviv-Reis 2013) May be even harder in EMs more FC debt, shorter maturities) Yet, paper provides clear evidence of countercyclical inflation in emerging markets Direct evidence that this is due to attempts to inflate the public LC debt? Could also explore and test relationship between monetary credibility and LC debt maturity Adrien Auclert Stanford) Discussion of Du, Pflueger and Schreger January 8, 2017 10 / 11

Conclusion New, robust and interesting set of stylized facts Intuitive rationalization, nice work on model Thought provoking on the role monetary-fiscal interactions in determining inflation cyclicality and macro outcomes Adrien Auclert Stanford) Discussion of Du, Pflueger and Schreger January 8, 2017 11 / 11