Minutes September 26 th, Members Meeting IG-PARLS

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IG-PARLS Members meeting, Antwerp, 26 th September 2012 Brussels, 09 November 2012 Minutes September 26 th, 2012 10.00 15.00 Members Meeting IG-PARLS VENUE: Provinciehuis Antwerpen, Koning Elisabethlei 22, 2018 Antwerpen HOTEL: Ramada Plaza Antwerp The Chair opens the Members Meeting and thanks the local organizer for the arrangements. Jean-Yves Pirlot welcomes the delegates in Antwerp and thanks them for their flexibility. 1 Validity of the meeting. MB 8 of the 9 members are present. Only Bulgaria is apologized. Presents (as seated) Frank Weydert Grand Duchy Luxembourg Vladimir Krupa and Branko Klekovic Croatia Clemens Kiepke and Dieter Seitz Germany Dietrich Kollenprat Austria Nicolas Smith France Torben Juulsager and Henning Elmstroem Denmark Maurice Barbieri Switzerland Jean-Yves Pirlot - Belgium Invited : Ann Pirlot Vandaele Observer: Pedro J. Ortis apologized 2 Approval of the agenda. MB Unanimously adopted without remark. 3 Approval of the minutes of the Brussels meeting of March 6 th, 2012. MB Unanimously adopted without remark.

4 Action Items. All 11 I 1 Transferred to Dieter Seitz (in attachement). Nb: All the tasks of Danko Markovinović are transferred to Vladimir Krupa. 11 I 2 Clemens Kiepke reports about his research. Only Germany and Switzerland have price lists. We should still work on this topic. This is only possible for publicly appointed surveyors, who are by law out of the scope of the EU regulations forbidding the existence of price lists. In Germany the state can perform the same tasks as the Publicly Appointed Surveyor; this is another reason for the existence of a price list. This avoids undue concurrence by the State. The price list is also a kind of protection for socially weaker people. Clemens Kiepke will write a report about this topic and it will be circulated before the next meeting. 11 I 3 Discussion delayed until point 6. Add TJ whenever HE is mentioned. 11 I 6 transferred to Vladimir Krupa (VK). 11 II 2 done except 1 country 11 II 3 done 11 II 4 It's difficult but it has to be pushed 11 II 5 Maurice has received something. The idea is to build a grid about the studies. Has to be discussed with DM in Opatija. Jean-Yves Pirlot presents the application made by a Greek student during the students contest. He will send the link. 12.I.1 Pedro's report was sent out but APV will check if it is on the website. 5 Minutes of presentations for national organisations: MB/JYP Croatia / Zagreb (MB/JYP) Vladimir Krupa reports about the visit of IG-PARLS in Croatia. The visit of CLGE + IG-PARLS to the Minister in charge was the first step of the project to create an improved situation for the Croatian surveying sector. We are waiting for a little text from Croatia about this event insisting on the participation of the Minister. A letter will be sent to the Minister to remind him the results of the meeting (after the symposium).

This will be coordinated with the Croatian Chamber and can be done after the next meeting in Opatija, on 19 October. The Director General of the NMCA visited Germany to learn about the German system. A visit of Switzerland has also to be planned. 6 Situation of the project Revision of the Accord Multilateral Working group Henning Elmstroem and Torben Juulsager report about the work in progress. They will table a report for the minutes to be attached. Three documents will be prepared. 1 short code (to be signed by those who have signed the AM), a full report, and a letter of intent. The letter of intent can be signed by the national association but should also be signed by the government or the NMCA Director General. This would improve the relevance of the document. It would be a kind of roadmap towards the public appointment. The scheme is accepted by the Members Meeting. The working group will meet to go on with that project (Switzerland, Germany, Denmark and France). This meeting should take place before end 2012. 7 Dynamic Professional Knowledge Base MB Maurice Barbieri presents the paper of Aerovision. The CLGE ExB did not always agree with the answers (language, integration ) and the different meanings. The ExB has sent an answer to Aerovision. The paper and the answers of the ExB will be attached to the minutes. The project goes on and the working group works on it. The remarks of the CLGE are approved by IG-PARLS. 8 Preparation of the GA CLGE Hannover All Jean-Yves Pirlot and Maurice Barbieri present the IG-PARLS part of the GA. Maurice Barbieri gives a few words about the project www.blueparking.eu. This project is very well accepted and will be tabled to the whole of CLGE during the Hanover GA. 9 Strategy 2012 2014 MB The paper of the IG-PARLS strategy is commented by Maurice Barbieri. He will give an update of the list of projects, where we are, what was done, what will be done at the GA in Hanover. Other IG could be created in a near future.

10 Elections All Maurice Barbieri is unanimously re-elected as chair of IG-PARLS. Clemens Kiepke is unanimously re-elected as vice-chair. Dieter Seitz is accepted as a treasurer of IG-PARLS if he s re-elected at the CLGE level. 11 Internet website modifications MB The decision was taken in Nuremberg. Maurice Barbieri comments the paper "Project of Internet page IGPARLS" he sent. We should at least put new information on the website as well as pictures. We should create IGPARLS.eu and redirect this domain to the CLGE web site. Everyone can send his comments to MB and he will advocate a quick update of the website towards the webmaster. 12 Coming actions and meetings. All 9-13/10/2012: INTERGEO Hanover. 19-20/10/2012: 5 th symposium in Opatija (Croatia). VK gives a little overview of this big yearly event including the different lectures that will be given as well as the different guests (Jean-Yves Pirlot, Maurice Barbieri and Andreas Rose will take part). 15/11/2012: Lisbon EUROGI. MB will attend the meeting as delegate of the association SOGI (swiss association for geographical informations) and will make a short presentation of IG PARLS. Remarque : 11-13/09/2012: OGE congress in La Rochelle. Nicolas Smith makes a little report of the event. 29-30/11/2012: PCC in Cyprus. Pedro will go to this meeting. We should put this event with the link www.eurocadastre.org on the website (CLGE & IGPARLS) (new AI). We should ask eurocadastre (PCC) if it is possible to put CLGE on their website as observer or guest. a. Lobbying - b. Assignments -

13 Approval of the budget of IG PARLS for 2013 DS Dieter Seitz comments the budget proposal for 2013 with the reduced contribution to CLGE that has already been approved by the CLGE ExB. IGPARLS will pay 60% of the CEPLIS budget and a part of the DPKB. The budget 2013 is unanimously adopted without remark. 14 Any other business. All Clemens Kiepke the table of the reviewed M.A. (version 2 MB/11.09.2012) and asks if everybody understood the questions and/or the sense of the words. Henning Elmstroem announces that he steps down of IG-PARLS after so many years and that Torben Juulsager will take over now. The IG-PARLS chair thanks him for all the work that was done and for his commitment. Maurice Barbieri fixes the next meeting in Brussels on 27/02/2013, just before the GA in Budapest on 22-23/03/2013. Action Items N Description In charge Target OK 11 I - 1 Send out the final version of Dieter Seitz s paper about price regulations for cadastral surveying DS ASAP B 11 I - 2 Conduct some further research and provide 01 Sep 11 CK further literature on price regulation 15 Mar 12 D 11 I - 3 01 Oct 11 Head a working party to table a reviewed 01 Feb 12 version of the Accord Multilateral HE TJ 29 March 12 (DE, DK, FR, CH) continued B 11 I - 5 Review the Website MB + JYP End March B 11 I - 6 Contact Slovenia to see if they are willing to join IG-PARLS (and why not, sign the VK ASAP H Accord Multilateral) 11 II - 1 Draft a charter or founding text HE TJ 01 Feb 12 B 11 II - 2 Answer the questionnaire ok except Romania All 01 Nov 11 D 11 II - 3 Take part in the EU Day of the Surveyor All 05 Mar 12 D 11 II - 4 Update the website (with Ondrej Böhm) MB + Jyp 01 Jan 12 H 11 II - 5 Draw a paper on the University Clusters MB,DM 01 Feb 12 31 March 13 B 12 I - 1 Circulate Pedro s report JYP 15 Mar 12 D? 12 II - 1 Put the report on the website AP ASAP 12 II - 2 Write a report about price regulations and circulate before next meeting see AI 11 I - 2 CK 27 Feb 13 B 12 II - 3 Write a report about the Working Group on the Accord Multilateral for the minutes to be HE+TJ ASAP B attached 12 II - 4 Prepare three documents related to the Antwerp decisions about the Accord TJ? 01 Feb 13 Multilateral new style 12 II - 5 Send the link to the application made by a Greek student JYP ASAP D 12 II - 6 Write a short paper about the visit of VK ASAP

CLGE+IGPARLS to Minister in Croatia (GeoInformatics) 12 II - 7 Send a letter to the Croation Minister MB, JYP ASAP after Symposium 12 II - 8 Buy IG-PARLS.eu DS ASAP 12 II - 9 Ask Eurocadastre (PCC) to put CLGE as observing member on their website PJOT ASAP H Halted P Planned B Busy D Done Ann Pirlot Vandaele CLGE Exec. Dir. a.i. Maurice Barbieri Chair IG-PARLS Enclosures: Dieter Seitz Paper about price lists + PowerPoint Torben Juulsager s short report about the working group on the Mutual Agreement revision Draft letter to the creation Minister, in charge of Surveying