COUNTY ASSEMBLY OF NAKURU

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1 COUNTY ASSEMBLY OF NAKURU THE HANSARD Wednesday 20 th February, 2019 Assembly Building The House met at 2.50pm [The Deputy Speaker (Hon. Samuel Tonui) in the Chair]. PRAYERS COMMUNICATION FROM THE CHAIR GOVERNOR S TOURNAMENT The Deputy Speaker (Hon. Samuel Tonui): Good afternoon honourable Members. I have one Communication to make concerning the upcoming Governor s tournament. This is to notify the honourable Members of the County Assembly that the Department of Youth and Sports is in the process of launching a ward tournament in the 55 wards of the County. This tournament is named Governor s Tournament which is expected to start in due course. Kindly all the respective Members of the County Assembly are asked to liaise and coordinate with the Sports officers in their respective wards in order to have a successful tournament. This is from the Chief Officer, Youth and Sports; Peter Mwaura. MOTION SUPPLEMENTARY BUDGET I FOR FYR 2018/2019 The Deputy Speaker (Hon. Samuel Tonui): There is a Motion by the Chairperson Committee on Budget and Appropriations. Hon. Joel Karuri: Thank you Mr. Deputy Speaker, the Report was tabled in the morning session so I want to thank you Mr. Deputy Speaker this afternoon for granting us this opportunity to deliberate on and to discuss this Report. Mr. Deputy Speaker, on behalf of Members of the Budget and Appropriations Committee, and Standing Orders 218, it is my pleasure to present to this House the Committee s Report on the first Supplementary Budget for FY 2018/2019 Mr. Deputy Speaker, the Budget and Appropriation Committee is currently constituted; as follows; Mr. Speaker, the list of Members is there. 1

2 The mandate of the Committee is clearly written in that page. Page 3 Mr. Deputy Speaker. Mr. Deputy Speaker, the Committee went ahead to examine the 2018/2019 Supplementary Budget and it took into consideration the views of the County Executive Member for Finance. Mr. Deputy Speaker, allow me to thank the Office of the Speaker and the Clerk of the County Assembly for the support extended to it in the execution of its mandate as well as to the Members of County Assembly who participated in the process. Mr. Deputy Speaker, the Committee is also grateful to the County Executive Committee Member for Finance, the Chief officer and his team from the County Treasury who appeared during the review process of the 2018/2019 County supplementary budget as well as the Budget Secretariat for the support received as it discharged its mandate of examining the 2018/19 County supplementary Budget. Mr. Deputy Speaker, it is therefore my pleasant duty and privilege, on behalf of the Budget and Appropriation Committee to table this Report and recommend it to the House for adoption. Mr. Deputy Speaker, this supplementary budget is prepared in accordance with the law and so we want to state from the onset that we met the legal compliance. It is also worth noting that this is the first supplementary budget for the FY 2018/2019 that is submitted to the County Assembly for review, scrutiny and to pave way for enactment of the first supplementary appropriation Act for 2018/19. Mr. Deputy Speaker, the rationale for this supplementary is to appropriate additional revenues amounting to Kshs. 163,183,634. This increase was occasioned by the additional allocation of the conditional grants listed below and other reallocation between votes and programmes across the County Departments. i. National Hospital Insurance fund amounting to Kshs. 99,999,945 ii. Agricultural Sector Development Support Programme II (ASDP II) amounting to Kshs. 21,983,635 iii. Kenya Urban Support Project (KUSP) amounting to Kshs. 41,200,000 Mr. Deputy Speaker, I will now give brief highlights on the above additional revenues. i. National Hospital Insurance fund amounting to Kshs. 99,999,945. I wish to inform Honorable Members that the Ministry of Health in the National Government completed modalities in 2015 of replacing the arrangement of cash transfers with regard to conditional allocation for free maternal health to County health facilities with an insurance scheme that was to guarantee mothers access to free maternal health care in the County health facilities. 2

3 Mr. Deputy Speaker, these funds for free maternity services were consequently transferred to the National Hospital Insurance Fund who reimburses registered hospitals the cost incurred on free maternal services. The amount received from the National Hospital Insurance is part of the pending bills for free maternity services Mr. Deputy Speaker, the Kenyan Agriculture Sector Development Support Programme (ASDSP) is a programme financed by the Swedish International Development Agency (SIDA) supporting the implementation of the Kenyan agriculture sector strategy. The programme aims at increasing the agricultural sector s contribution to the national and county economy and at the same time improve livelihood in rural areas in Kenya. The increased benefit of small- scale producers and traders, from agricultural production, processing and trade is key in the strategy. Mr. Deputy Speaker, this Programme which was initiated in January 2012 was a five-year programme ending December And it was co-financed by the Government of Kenya and the Government of Sweden. However, in early 2016, the two governments agreed to extend the ASDSP I implementation period by six months through a no-cost extension to June Mr. Deputy Speaker, based on the success of the Agriculture Sector Development Support Programme (ASDSP I) and lessons learnt as a nation-wide Value Chain and Sector development support programme, the two governments also agreed to initiate the design of a five-year second phase of Agricultural Sector Development Support Programme. ASDSP II will consequently be implemented from July 2017 to June 2022 and it will maintain the overall focus and approach of ASDSP I, which has proven to be relevant and effective. Mr. Deputy Speaker, in order to encourage County Governments to establish and appropriate budgets for urban areas and cities, the National Government in partnership with the World Bank have designed the Kenya Urban Support Program (KUSP) with the objective of supporting the establishment and strengthening of urban institutions and systems to deliver improved infrastructure and services in participating counties. Through this programme Mr. Deputy Speaker, Counties will be incentivized and supported to establish charters as well as administrative structures for urban areas and cities. Additional resources will be provided to support development of necessary urban infrastructure. Mr. Deputy Speaker, we now proceed to the first item that the Committee looked into, which is the Ministry of Infrastructure. We looked keenly at the Boresha BaraBara Programme and it is worth noting that as we looked into these deliberations it is also good to once again re-emphasise that there was close consultations with the department of Finance and Economic Planning. 3

4 Mr. Deputy Speaker, the County in FY 2018/2019 embarked on an ambitious transformative plan of grading and gravelling roads across the County and the County Assembly appropriated Kshs. 171 million for the acquisition of tippers, graders, Dozers, low loader, excavators and rollers. However Mr. Deputy Speaker, due to the stringent procurement processes and the need to adhere to the procurement law, the County has not been able to acquire the intended machinery, consequently Boresha Barabara program has not taken off and it has not been able to achieve the goals that were intended. Mr. Deputy Speaker, the importance of a well-developed infrastructure cannot be gainsaid. Good infrastructure increases economic productivity, lowers production costs, improves quality of life, raises County s regional and global competitiveness The Committee in recognition of the direct impact of an improved infrastructure in modernizing the economy allocated an additional Kshs. 86,560,000 in this supplementary to kick start Boresha Barabara Initiative for five (5) days in every ward and is expected to run for 10 weeks before the start of the long rains. Mr. Speaker, as a Committee it was prudent to break down the Kshs. 86 million to; i. Hire of equipment ii. Fuels iii. Purchase of gravel/murram iv. Allowances for casuals labor v. Maintenance of machinery Mr. Deputy Speaker, under this programme when the Committee was deliberating on it, we had an opportunity of inviting the CEC Roads and Infrastructure and also the Chairman, Committee on Roads and Infrastructure who appeared in that Committee together with the technical persons from that department who assured that with the added resources, they will be able to run the programme to achieve the maximum benefits. Mr. Deputy Speaker, on that line the Committee recommended that the Chairman for that department, honourable Machembu that next week on Tuesday tables in this House a detailed program that would then be adopted by this House that could be used in oversighting the monies that have been apportioned to this program. Mr. Deputy Speaker, other reallocation under infrastructure includes; i. Reallocation of Construction of Boda-boda shades amounting to Kshs. 10,000,000 to other priority areas 4

5 ii. Increase of budgetary allocation for electricity by Kshs. 50 million from 51 million that was budgeted in the main budget to make the amount to Kshs. 101 million Mr. Deputy Speaker and honourable Members, this is one of the areas now that the County has found itself and it is a very new terrain in terms of funding. And so much has been said in terms of changing the bulbs to take care of the new technologies, the energy audit reports. So are the things that we would like the department of Infrastructure in the coming week to be able to furnish the House with so that we can reduce the power costs. The Committee noted that this was not sustainable and we cannot continue funding electricity bills of such magnitude. When we come to the department of Lands, Housing and Physical Planning Mr. Deputy Speaker, it is worth noting that this department has received monies from the World Bank in conjunction with the National Government amounting to Kshs. 41,200,000. Mr. Deputy Speaker, this is one of the departments that was affected by the collaboration between the National Government and the County Government in the Land Titling program. When the Land Titling program started, it was then that it was realised that there were no monies that were budgeted in the main budget for those purposes. And as such Mr. Deputy Speaker, the Committee looked in conjunction with the CEC for the department and the CO and other technical people from that department and it was reallocated monies as follows; i. Land Titling process - 25,000,000 ii. Planning of urban centres - 20,000,000 It is worth noting that the department in the past like two months, they had advertised in the local Dailies that they intended to plan 40 urban centres or more but there were no monies. So Mr. Deputy Speaker they were able to vie the monies in the departments to be able to realise this item. Mr. Deputy Speaker, the other areas that monies were allocated are; iii. Purchase of motor vehicles - 13,000,000 This is so that they can move around the County as they fast track on the projects issuance of titles. iv. Domestic travel - 10,000,000 This is also to facilitate the movement of surveyors and other land experts across the County. 5

6 There is another vote which is Committee meeting allowances. We realised that as much as the County tends to sponsor this project, the National Government in terms of monetary funds, it is not funding. And when people are mobilised across the wards, the department was able to demonstrate that they were finding challenges in being able to facilitate these public hearings and these public participations in the Titling Program. So these monies totaling to Kshs. 8.1 million also need a detailed work plan which was provided for. There were letters that were deposited to the Budget Office of this Assembly. However, we also feel as a Committee that in the coming days possibly next week that there be laid in this House a comprehensive work plan for this Committee s allowances so that we do not work in darkness Mr. Deputy Speaker. Other reallocation Mr. Deputy Speaker, includes; i. Reallocation of County Seismic and Geological Survey amounting to Kshs. 15 million which was taken to other Titling projects and all those. ii. Reallocation of Survey of Urban Centres amounting to Kshs. 5,000,000 to other priority areas Mr. Deputy Speaker. The other reallocations are indicated there below. We move to the Office of the Governor and Deputy Governor. The office of the Governor have a net increase of Kshs.50,750,000 which comprises of increase in use of goods and service amounting to Kshs. 83 million and reallocation of development expenditure (reduction) to recurrent amounting to Kshs. 32,250,000 Mr. Deputy Speaker, reduction in development expenditure in the office of the Governor to finance use of goods totaling Kshs. 27,250,000 consists of; The Deputy Speaker (Hon. Samuel Tonui): Chairman, I would ask to summarise because Members will still have to contribute and we have ahead of us another Motion. Hon. Joel Karuri: Thank you, I stand guided by you Mr. Deputy Speaker. So we move to County Treasury, there is the County Public Service Boarding and the County Public Service, Training and Devolution. And of importance Mr. Deputy Speaker is Health Services. That this department has been enhanced by Kshs. 124,839,999 which comprises of a recurrent expenditure of Kshs. 25 million and development expenditure of Kshs. 99,839,999. Mr. Deputy Speaker, if you move down to no. 36 we realise how the department also requires extra funding for drugs and of importance is to note that there has been so much issues about ambulances and it is important and the purchase of ambulances both from equitable and conditional grants have been increased to 57,500,000. 6

7 Mr. Deputy Speaker, another important department is the department of Education, Vocational Training, ICT and e-government. It is worth noting that County plans to employ 350 ECDE teachers (Loud Consultations) The Deputy Speaker (Hon. Samuel Tonui): Honourable Members, let us wait for the Chairman to finish then we consult. Order! Hon. Joel Karuri: The County was able to employ 266 teachers and in the coming budget we will be seeking that the County employs more teachers because we realise that not all the wards were able to get teachers in equal basis. Mr. Deputy Speaker we move to the County Assembly which is page 16. Mr. Deputy Speaker, honourable Members, the County Assembly budget was rationalized to accommodate the need for continuous training for Members to capacity build them in order to effectively undertake their oversight, legislative and representation role. In this respect Mr. Deputy Speaker, in order to build Members capacity, the Committee has reallocated foreign travel allocation amounting to Kshs. 3,031,733 and savings of Kshs. 4,210,730 from Committee meeting expenses towards the training of the honorable Members. Mr. Deputy Speaker when we move to no. 47, the Committee The Deputy Speaker (Hon. Samuel Tonui): Honourable Members, you are consulting loudly! Order! Hon. Joel Karuri: Thank you Mr. Deputy Speaker. The Committee has considered the concerns of Members on gender mainstreaming issues and reallocated Kshs. 1,150,000 from savings from Committee meetings expenses towards gender based issues in the County Assembly which now brings the total budget to this budget line to Kshs.1.8 million so that it can take the issues. Mr. Deputy Speaker, allow me to labour on this point. This has been one of the issues that has caused so much conflicts amongst the Members and it is important that to be progressive it is good to consider the gender mainstreaming. On this Mr. Deputy Speaker as a Committee we want to thank the Office of the Speaker, the Office of the Majority Leader and the Office on the Committee on Budget and also Committee on Liaison because of their input on this matter. Mr. Deputy Speaker the other important area to touch is; The High court petition no. 9 of 2018 challenging the review of the remuneration of State Officers in the County vide gazette notice no of 7 th July 2017 was determined on 10 th December

8 quashing the gazette notice on review of remuneration of State Officers, consequently the county assembly tabulated the financial implication of the judgment above resulting into arrears to Hon Members amounting to Kshs. 5,044,249. Mr. Deputy Speaker, as a Committee because of the challenges and the difficulties that we found when we were interrogating this budget, it is our humble request and prayer that these monies totaling to Kshs. 5 million would be the first charge in the next Financial budget. Now I move to other important recommendations; Mr. Deputy Speaker, this is significant when we go to other recommendations and conclusion. The county did not meet the six month local revenue collection for the 1 st half of FY 2018/19 and achieved Kshs. 578, 117,171 (i.e. 29 %) in the half year. Mr. Deputy Speaker that shows that as a County we need to collect 71 percent of the projected and targeted revenue in these six months. If this is not realised, we will find ourselves as a County in a very tricky situation. Mr. Deputy Speaker, with all that I now want to beg the honourable Members to adopt this Report. we took a very careful consideration of the projects changes that then Members had proposed and if they look at the back of the Report all the projects have been annexed therein for easy referral and all that Mr. Deputy Speaker. So I beg to move, and I invite a Member of this Committee, Dr. Mbae to second. Thank you Mr. Deputy Speaker. The Deputy Speaker (Hon. Samuel Tonui): Thank you honourable Chair. Mheshimiwa Daktari Mbae. Hon. Peter Mbae: Thank you Mr. Deputy Speaker, I want to thank the Chair for very ably moving this and I want to assure I will take a very short time so that Members can have time to engage. Mr. Deputy Speaker, I will just make one or two highlights. As you understand, supplementary we actually we work with what we have. We are working within the amount that we passed in the main budget. We are just doing reallocation. Mr. Deputy Speaker, I want to quickly mention the issue of Boresha. I want to direct you quickly to page 9 of this Report. They are saying that; we know that infrastructure is a main thing. There are some challenges Mr. Speaker. We must admit that up to now we do not have a comprehensive program and yet we know around the end of March, maybe early April rains are going to come. That is why we invited the CEC so that they can give their final commitment concerning this issue. And Members I want to assure you, this is the last time they are talking about pressure. And that is why we said we do not want to be seen by the Executive to be the obstacle towards what the Governor wants to achieve using this flagship. So that we were able to see that in every Sub- County, we want to have one grader, four tippers, and two rollers to be shared by two Sub- 8

9 Counties. Also one excavator per Sub-County and at least one dozer to be shared by two Sub- Counties. Now, they said that the money we had allocated for the budget was not enough. So we said what can be done with this short time so that every ward has at least five days before the rains come. We have done our part Mr. Deputy Speaker and we expect the Executive to do theirs. I want to go on and mention the (inaudible) program. Mr. Deputy Speaker, all the Members here have farmers, members shareholders waiting for titles. But the Executive requested and said, can we get some little money so that we can fast track. Mr. Deputy Speaker, you remember this is something that is in the Presidential agenda, they have been camping here for many years and we hope before the end of this Financial Year, actually I am told beginning March, titles will be given once we pass this supplementary budget. That will be something that is going to help our farmers. Mr. Deputy Speaker because I said I want to be fast, I want to move on and talk about ECED teachers. As you can see, and I want to quickly move Members there so that we can move forward; page 14. Mr. Deputy Speaker, we had budgeted but for now because of the time taken we had some savings. The only thing I want to say and I want to direct this to the Chairperson Education; the Executive gave us a formula of allocating ECDE teachers. I want to give an example of my ward that has 46 registered public ECEDs. We got only six ECED teachers. Mr. Deputy Speaker, we rejected the formular that was given to us by the Executive because we wanted to be equal but equality has never been anywhere. As a result, we had Members with two ECEDs who were given six ECED teachers. That is illegal, it is unlawful and it is not something we want to continue with. When we are given some advice by the Executive, we take time to listen to the advice because they are technical people. Mr. Deputy Speaker as I finish, we had now to allocate money from education to go to hospitals yet we also needed ECED teachers. That is something to remember and when we come next time (Loud consultations) The Deputy Speaker (Hon. Samuel Tonui): Order! Order! Hon. Peter Mbae: Mr. Deputy Speaker as I finish, I want to assure you, this is a very serious exercise that we are undertaking. The Deputy Speaker (Hon. Samuel Tonui): Order! There is appoint of order from honourable Kiere. Hon. George Machoka: (On a point of order) Thank you Mr. Deputy Speaker, I am standing on Order 181 or 118; I am not so sure, but because of time Sir, honourable Dr. Mbae should remember there are some wards which never got even one ECED teacher. He is complaining he got six so as he continues complaining, there are others who never got even one and others like Kihingo who got only one. So the Chair Budget should remember, first of all to equalize in all the wards; we all get six teachers, then from there we come with other parameters. Thank you Mr. Deputy Speaker. 9

10 The Deputy Speaker (Hon. Samuel Tonui): Order! Order! You are reading from the same page. You also complained that the number of teachers recruited to us is very low that it cannot be enough to be distributed to any ward. For example Kabutu has one or two. Okay, you can continue. Hon. Dr. Peter Mbae: I thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, I am in tandem with the honourable Member from Kihingo. What we are saying is, we ended up losing. So that is something that needs to be checked next time. Mr. Deputy Speaker, I want to move quickly to the issue of recommendations, and Honorable Deputy Speaker I am in tandem to what the Chairperson of the Committee on Budget and Appropriations has said, and I want to say to the Members, that we spent many hours on behalf of the members so that we can come and be in tandem with what Members feel. The first one is that we had a very big shortfall in revenue and as a House Honorable Deputy Speaker protect me from the Honorable Members who are consulting so loudly. The Deputy Speaker (Hon. Samuel Tonui): Order Members, consult in low tone please. Hon. Dr. Peter Mbae: this House to immediately propose that the Committee on Finance table a report and tell us why there is such a high decline on revenue for this County? This is something that must be done because they are giving us a lot of trouble in trying to appropriate the money which is not there. We need the Committee on Finance to do their work so that we can have the money to share. On the issue of wards projects I do not want to belabor but I want to pass for the benefit of this members that we have two consecutive years where most of the projects have not taken off in most of the wards and we want to fast-track that. Finally, Members I want to say we have done our best in terms of appropriation on the proposals on issues by the Assembly for example the budget for the Assembly. We have made sure that continuous Education and Capacity Building for the members is well taken care of. But from now until the end of this financial year Members will be happy, they will have a lot of capacity building so that they will be able to do their work effectively (Loud consultations) The Deputy Speaker (Hon. Samuel Tonui): Order, Order chairperson for security Hon. Dr. Peter Mbae: The Member for Naivasha Honorable Speaker, on page sixteen Honorable Deputy Speaker, it is there and the Chairperson can read it, I think members should be encouraged, you do not need to read anything but Members can capture quickly so that you can capture and in any case there are some questions that have been asked here which I want to respond to. Members are asking and information is very important, if you look at page nine, the reallocation of Bodaboda Shades is amounting to ten million to other priority areas, as a Member of the Committee some Members have come to me asking which this priority areas? This a very good question, this is also the same up to page eleven, you have seen a lot of reallocation to other priority 10

11 areas. When we say we are adding twenty million for titling, which are the priority areas? We are getting this money to those other areas to the priority areas. If you look at this document honorable Deputy Speaker, I want to take you back to the department of Agriculture, Livestock and Fisheries which is vote number D09, there is no page but is at the back of this document, if you look for example at the planting materials support projects which is avocado seedlings, at the end you will see five million but if you look up there you will see planting materials support projects tree seedling in brackets. This means the money has been removed for this projects which is the tree seedlings. When you see a positive it means you will see where the money has been moved to. If you look at the governor s vote, you will see the construction of the governor s headquarters, the money is removed. This is the money that we were able to take to other priority areas like we have explained. Honorable Deputy Speaker I beg to second. The Deputy Speaker (Hon. Samuel Tonui): Thank you Honorable Dr. Mbae for seconding the Motion. (Question proposed) Hon. David Malel: Thank you Honorable Deputy Speaker, I also thank the Committee on Budget and Appropriation on what they have done and more so also in inviting the committee on Liaison so that we may have to scrutinize together. The only concern is and this should be made clear to this particular House especially to the office of the Clerk. If we are served with this papers barely an hour and we are expected to be so conversant with this mathematics probably like the way the honorable doctor has been referring then I think the office of the Clerk is taking us for granted. Honorable Deputy Speaker, look at the item number 28 it is talking of reallocation to priority areas, and it is not explained what was so wrong in saying that that amount has been reallocated to another seismic.. Whatever that type explanations. I think this people are taking us for granted in my view, though I do not know the mood of the House, such a particular document so important to the county should be given at least a day or two, so that we may also go through. Remember the Committee on Budget and Appropriations took some days to understand this document, what was so expensive in this particular House not to take members for at least even a day so that we may also conceptualize what is in this document. Passing a document of this nature without understanding is like putting a rope on your neck and on this regard Honorable Deputy Speaker, in my view if it is going to be accepted that is, we should be given at least time to interrogate this document. The Deputy Speaker (Hon. Samuel Tonui): Thank you Honorable Malel, the Leader of Majority and then I come to Honorable Machembu. 11

12 The Leader of Majority (Hon. Moses Kamau): thank you very much the Honorable Deputy Speaker, first of all is for the members to understand, first I want to thank the chairperson for this wonderful presentation. I want to inform Honorable Malel that under that number 28, if you read it in full you will see the priority areas we are talking about. This is because they are talking about seismic geological survey amounting to fifteen million, if you read one, two and three you can see those bulletins are reallocations. When you come to bulletin four, it is the one showing where we have increased and where we have increased is the priority area honorable Deputy Speaker. Therefore I need to explain to the honorable members that you need to read for instance we have removed fifteen million to the priority area and the priority area under that department is where we have increased. For instance increased contracted professional services by fourteen million. I think you remember honorable Deputy Speaker the issue of titling. We have a strong opinion that we need to get this professionals contracted so that they engage on the titling issues for we do not have enough surveyors and that is why it was a priority area to remove this fifteen million. You can see on the issue of increased fuels and lubricants, when the Surveyors are going round to map the issue of urban centers and titling they need more money for fuels. Under number seven, and I want to inform Honorable Kamanu that the increase in daily subsistence allowance, there is a taskforce which is helping the department on land which it had a lot of disputes in Maiela, that is why it was a priority area because this issue of this committee did not have any subsistence allowance to those committee who are helping us on land disputes. I want to inform the Committee on Agriculture under page seven that during the appropriation of the resources and the chairperson for this committee to follow it critically. During the first budget approval there was this forty one million under bullet eleven and therefore he needs to follow up on the way this money was spent because it was increment after a good program to be implemented by the department for Agriculture. I want to inform Members on the issue on County Assembly where we have enhanced and I want to say thank you to the Committee on Budget because you can see when we are appropriating the resources there was the issue of the decline of revenue and the balance that was there has been captured. On the issue of members who are on gender mainstreaming, they have been considered and I want to place and an amendment under page eighteen number fifty three bulletin one. I can see Honorable Karanja is consulting on a high tone. The Deputy Speaker (Hon. Samuel Tonui): Order the Honorable Chairperson for the Committee on Security. The Leader of Majority (Hon. Moses Kamau): Amendment on page eighteen number fifty three bulletin one, other recommendations, we can see where the county did not meet the six months local revenue collection for the half year 2018/2019 and achieved 578 million which is 29 percent. 12

13 Below it has been written two million, the target was two billion but not two million. I want to inform Honorable Mwangi and I do not know whether he is around that this is a critical statement that he has been given by the Committee on Budget which the Chairman for Finance must take it very clearly and critically and immediately by next week we are requesting that he needs to furnish us with clear information because when I repeat this statement that the county did not meet the six month local revenue collection for the first half of the 2018/2019 and achieved Kshs 578 million which is 29 percent. If this persist the county may not achieve the revenue target of two billion which will affect projects and programme implementation. We have a huge budget of around eight billion on development and if we will not achieve on the revenue collections for Nakuru County, this means some of those projects we are implying were not implemented may be left out and when it comes to around the month of June when we shall be passing the next budget some of those projects will not be implemented and they will be rolled over. I am requesting the Chairperson for the Committee on Finance to help us critically oversight the way the revenue is being collected for the County of Nakuru, I think we need also to bring as quick as possible the Finance Bill so that we can approve it. I want to end my support and say thank you to the Members of the Committee on Budget for a great job well done. The Deputy Speaker (Hon. Samuel Tonui): Thank you the Leader of Majority, I will give to Honorable Machembu and then Honorable Irene. We still have a Motion a head of us and we have a Committee Vetting of a Chief Officer after Plenary. Hon. Machembu Chege: Thank you Honorable Deputy Speaker, I want to take this opportunity to thank the Committee on Budget and Appropriation for actually agreeing to respond to the presentation we made requiring that the department of Roads and Infrastructure be added some money so that it is able to work in some of the areas that are left behind and specifically the roads. I want to say that the eighty six million that have been added, I want to thank the House and also all the members but I want to say that this amount is still not enough. What do I want to say? As far as I am concerned I have come to realize that BORESHA BARABARA concept has been misunderstood totally. Members I just want to take two minutes to explain what I understand. You will realize that in the previous budget which was the main budget, we passed only forty million to go to the BORESHA BARABARA, there was some money to go for the machinery but the money that was to translate to our wards, Members I want you to listen to this because this where people have misunderstood the BORESHA concept (Loud consultations) Honorable Deputy Speaker, members are consulting loudly, can I give them a bit of time...? The Deputy Speaker (Hon. Samuel Tonui): Honorable Kiere and Honorable Dr. Mbae can you please consult in low tones. 13

14 Hon. Machembu Chege: Thank you, I was saying that the money that we want for BORESHA BARABARA which was to be used in our wards was forty million. The other money around two hundred million went to buy the machinery. The forty million was supposed to translate in our wards by making those particular roads. If you divide forty by fifty five wards you will realize that each ward was supposed to have only benefited with around seven hundred thousand. This money is not enough to solve road problems that exists and this is where we are having a problem. Members, though the BORESHA BARABARA was a solution to the problems but it was not well funded, now today we have gone ahead to give eighty six million, if you divine eighty six million wholesomely you will see that each ward is benefiting with 1, million. Suppose every ward is supposed to hire the machines, to hire casuals and to fuel the machines and you will realize that even after allocating the eighty six million the problem of roads has not yet been solved. I want you to understand the weight that I am carrying, that the Members are saying and talking about the BORESHA BARABARA but we are not interrogating it and analyzing it financially and how effective it can be, as we speak now, between now and probably before the rains, every ward has been allocated 1.5 million. This will hire the graders, this will hire the casuals and will also be used for fueling and all those logistics that come with that. I want you to appreciate that that particular work might also not meet the need that are in our wards. Therefore, we are trying and we will be able to do what we can be able to do, we project to have two graders in every Ward, Four Tippers however the Excavator and the shovel will be shared. In that case I want to ask all members to cooperate so that we can effectively be able to run this program which is ahead of us, otherwise I want to support this Motion and support the Budget Committee and all the members, thank you very much. The Deputy Speaker (Hon. Samuel Tonui): Honorable Irene and then Honorable Karanja. Hon. Irene Chebichii: Thank you, I just wanted to seek for some clarity from the Chairperson for the Committee on Budget and Appropriation on page sixteen relating to the department of Water, Environment and Natural Resources. I can see that there are some reallocation in this department that is reduction on casual laborers, I want to get more information regarding this reduction in casual laborers, and does it mean that the normal casual laborers who have been working in our wards are going to be reduced or whatever it is? I kindly seek for some clarity also in reduction on purchase of motor vehicles, there is also reduction in routine maintenance. I want to know what are we reducing in the ministry of energy yet we have been straining so much even to get any issues of maintaining of our borehole, the issues of desilting of the dams and filling the gaps that were actually caused by the floods last year. I can see there is increase in foreign travel and reduction in national celebrations, so I would like to know this reallocations. Which money has been taken to which department and I understand personally that there is a very big problem in the ministry of Water, Environment and Energy. I would like to know where is the eight million for the casual laborers going to, the 1.2 million 14

15 shillings for motor vehicles where is it going to and the two million for water maintenance. A reduction in National Celebrations, which department are they taking this money to and also does this mean that the casual laborers are going to reduce from our wards? Thank you. The Deputy Speaker (Hon. Samuel Tonui): Thank you so much, the Chairperson for Budget you should be prepared, when you respond make sure you touch on that issue because it is an important issue. Honorable Karanja. Hon. Stanley Karanja: Thank you the Deputy Speaker, you know issues of mathematics is not easy, for me I was the Kiswahili and History teacher therefore grasping mathematics is not easy but we are still struggling because we found ourselves here. It is from that note that the honorable Deputy Speaker that we would like to have some several clarifications because this budget and, may be the Chairperson Honorable Karuri next time, it will be suicidal for us to be given this document while entering the House. I have been asking why this document should be submitted in terms of not hard copy, we need a soft copy and that is why I am going where Honorable David Malel was that we should never ever again be given a document just to come and pass it. We have passed the situation whereby we become like voting machines or zombies such that you can be rotated and regurgitated and then you are being used. This is a very serious document, this the document that I have not been given time to study, as I say this I would like to take members to page number fourteen where we have Trade, Marketing, Industry and Tourism. If you check at number thirty seven as read by the chairperson, the department will have an expenditure amounting to seven million being reallocated while shillings two million resulted from ward projects. This is where my heart now stops, which projects were this? Remember this were Ward Projects and that is why we needed to interrogate this document further so that I may not be passing a budget here and my ward project have been affected and I am here and clapping. I am also perturbed by number thirty eight, that the following projects have been affected with reallocations to other priority areas. If you check this on the design and constructions of trade one stop from that to that and you check on number two on reduction of purchase of coolers. This is where we should be headed to is where we are being moved from, Honorable Deputy Speaker if you check on the issue of Avocado on number forty sub section two on the increase of scholarships. This is where my heart stops beating, if you check that there is an increase in scholarship and other education benefits allocation by five million. As a person I have never heard of this scholarships, why are we now increasing what we have never heard of? We should be getting who are this people benefiting from this scholarships so that when we are being asked to enhance this scholarship for who? This is why I am saying there are some grey areas in this Budget. I must be told who benefited and when so that the scholarships are not enough and add for this. 15

16 Somebody is joking with this House and members are not seeing, that is why I am saying there is something fundamentally wrong and I asked the Chairperson when we went for breakfast, I asked him is there anything that has been hidden? This is one of the things that has been hidden, if you go to what we have gone to in number thirty seven and Visa a Vis page twelve which is reductions on the constructions on the residence of the office of Deputy Governor by some amount. I wonder why you should touch on agriculture that is affecting some common people and yet leave a lot of money for the construction of the official residence of the Deputy Governor? This is where I am thinking that we are headed wrong, what is more important, is it number thirty eight or number thirty one b? Where should we be getting money from and where should we be taking? I am perturbed and I know the Chairperson will explain that because I am bothered. If you go to page eighteen on additional allocation for planting materials support project for avocado seedlings by shillings five million from shillings 15 million to 20 million. This is where I always say before we add money can we be told where that programs is and how far has that program taken us, how much money has been used in terms of avocado seedlings and who has benefited so that we will warrant to add this five million. I am seeing something fundamentally wrong with this document, this because I was asking what other things that have been affected, I do not know what to do but to be directed by mob psychology here but thinking has completely stopped, let me wait for mob psychology and let me work like a zombie, I do concur not as Honorable Karanja but as a zombie because this document is fundamentally wrong. Thank you. Hon. Karanja Mburu: (On a Point Of Order) it is the composition of the high because an Honorable Member is calling himself a zombie and I wonder from which Ward or which category he is representing? I need to know. The Deputy Speaker (Hon. Samuel Tonui): The Chairperson for the Committee on security can you answer that. Hon. Stanley Karanja: As I said and did not frame that one, may be the Member is just flabbergasted by phonology but the point is that there comes a time where you do not understand a document but you have to do it, that is where the cognitive ability of a person stops and what is left is a psychomotor person, that is where I am, the psychomotor person but not the cognitive thing. Hon. Dr. Peter Mbae: (On A Point Of Order) I have read so many books but I have never heard some of the words, can he clarify what he means because Members are floating, let him use wards that can be available in the dictionary. The Deputy Speaker (Hon. Samuel Tonui): Order Members, we are now going out of the debate, let him use his vocabularies but if you are not getting you can just approach him to explain to you. What is it Honorable Kiere? I want to give to honorable Erick and then Honorable Mutai. Each Member to talk for one minute. 16

17 Hon. George Machoka: I stand to support this document and say that the Committee on Budget and Appropriation did a good job but as other colleagues have said, sincerely we need this document to be given to Members prior so that they can go through the document and see what is inside, for example on page number fifteen subsection forty two on roman three where it says additional allocations for supply for production by ten million. I am just wondering additional allocation for supplies for production, which supply? It leaves us with a lot of questions. I also wish that the chairperson for the Committee on Budget and Appropriation give a direction on page thirteen on health issues. We have other development which is purchase of Ambulance where we have thirty four million five hundred thousand, then down there again we have purchase of Ambulance which is seventeen million, two hundred and fifty eight thousand, two hundred and sixty four. We wish also to have a clarity of the three development project where it falls? The Deputy Speaker (Hon. Samuel Tonui): Honorable Chairperson kindly note that, thank you, Honorable Erick then Honorable Mutai and finally Honorable Kamanu the member for Malewa West. Hon. Erick Gichuki: I have had the privilege to have a look at a finer copy of the Supplementary Budget, I had initially contacted the Budget Office and there was a clause which was omitted which is 40(2) which reads on the increase of scholarship and other educational benefits allocation by eight million, you might not know that. It must be noted that three million is in respect to Viwandani Ward bursary, so that is an omission that must be effected. I have heard Honorable Karanja questioning the seven million on bullet thirty seven which reads as- this departments development and expenditure budget amounting to seven million has been reallocated, that also happens to be my ward. During the public participation we were not sure of the Kenya urban support program and we had initially budgeted seven million for a market which we later reallocated because the Kenya Urban Support Project is going to take up the project. We have reallocated those funds to some different projects no wonder the seven million allocation, I hope this is answered. I want to bring this to the attention of this House, the BORESHA BARABARA initiative. In my view I think the schedule this time has to be generated from the Assembly as opposed to what we have had earlier. The schedule for BORESHA BARABARA has to be made by the Roads, Transport and Infrastructure Committee headed by chairperson. I think that schedule has to be generated by us the Assembly and implemented by the executive. The Finance committee and as much as I sit in this committee we are actually proving to be a letdown in this county. If we can only collect twenty nine percent of the estimates and this means we are failing greatly and I ask you honorable Deputy Speaker to probably task our chairperson to bring a report to this House highlighting what areas we think have loophole and what we need to do and make recommendations, thank you and I support. 17

18 The Deputy Speaker (Hon. Samuel Tonui): I wish the honorable Chairperson for the Committee on Finance could have been in the House because it seems this is a serious issue which he needs to address. Honorable Kamanu. Hon. Joseph Kamanu: Thank you, I think as I support this document I do concur with my colleagues this document ought to have been handed over to every member at least two or three days prior to today s proceedings so that we can analyze every detail. Secondly I am sure we are facing a crisis in this county and possibly in the entire country in the health sector. The nurses are on strike and possibly nothing was factored here, so I am sure very soon we shall hear from the executive on the way forward and ensure that nurses are back on duty. Mr. Deputy Speaker as we reallocate and readjust the allocations to several departments, I would propose that we have at least monthly reports to ensure we have value for these adjustments. We are not doing this to suit someone interest somewhere but rather, we are doing this to ensure value for money and also to streamline their service delivery. I would propose that as we do this, let us have monthly reports or feedback in every department to ensure we have value for these readjustments. Thirdly, all the ministry or other departments, can we have a data right from the ward level because I am sure we are readjusting and also reallocating; can we be told from every ward what we reallocated in the first quarter up to date and what is there so that every member can attest on behalf of his or her constituents that whatever is here is giving life a positive stride in our wards because I can see some areas are benefiting much. Anyway after all are we getting value for what we are doing and the only member who can attest to it is the MCA from individual wards. Let us get the feedback from the respective departments. Thank you. The Deputy Speaker (Hon Samuel Tonui): Thank you honorable chairperson for environment. It seems as if there is a point which was raised by honorable Malel; that this document should have been given to the members earlier enough, such as two or three days to the debate so that they can understand; especially on a document like this dealing with money issues. Clerk take note that the documents should be distributed to members early before debate. Honorable Murage it is your turn. Hon Josephat Murage: Thank you honorable Deputy Speaker; as I arise to support this well written document which has been laid today by the Budget Committee. I think this House should move with speed to pass this document because mainly our roads are in pathetic conditions. We need our roads done before onset of rainy season and thus I agree that this supplementary budget should be passed so that we can move and start rehabilitating our roads especially in Malewa ward, the infrastructure is in bad condition. The Deputy Speaker (Hon Samuel Tonui): Honorable Mutai then honorable Alfred Mutai and maybe honorable from Mau Narok and Honorable member from Lake View ward. Hon Daniel Mutai: Thank you Mr. Deputy Speaker; I do also support the passing of this document although halfheartedly. As my fellow members have spoken about the time frame, we need enough time to interrogate this document. There is one field that I find was left out, emergency, as you 18