Medicaid 101: Non-MAGI Budgeting

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Medicaid 101: Non-MAGI Budgeting Geoffrey A. Hale Senior Health Law Attorney Empire Justice Center August 28, 2018 1 1

Agenda Non-MAGI Medicaid Strategies for keeping Medicaid with Excess Income: Spenddown Supplemental Needs Trusts (SNT) Spousal Refusal For MTLC: o Spousal budgeting o Housing Disregard 2 2

Non-MAGI vs. MAGI Medicaid 3 3

MAGI Coverage by Income Level 400% 350% 300% 250% 200% 150% 100% 50% 0% 138% 138% Childless Adults Parents 155% 154% 19-20 Year Olds Living w/parent Children 1-18 223% 223% Infants <1 Medicaid Essential Plan CHIP APTC + CSR APTC Pregnant Women 4 For a full chart, click here 4

Non-MAGI Medicaid Administered through the Local District Social Services Includes: SSI-related Medicaid ABD Medicaid MSP & MBI-WPD Income and Resource limits Household Size Monthly Income Limit Asset Limit 1 $842 $15,150 2 $1,233 $22,200 5 5

Eligibility Groups MAGI New Adult Group: Childless adults, which include individuals that are: Not pregnant Age 19-64 (19 & 20 living alone) without Medicare Could be certified disabled but don t have Medicare yet Infants and Children under 19 Parents/Caretaker Relatives Pregnant Women Non-MAGI SSI: SSI recipients State Supplement only SSI-related Medically Needy: Aged, Disabled, or Blind ADC-related Medically Needy: Under 21 years old Parent Caretaker Relatives Pregnant Women Medicare Savings Program 19 & 20 Year Olds Living with Parents AIDS Health Insurance Program (AHIP) Family Planning Benefit Program: if applying through NYSoH & are eligible for FPBP only Medicaid Buy-In for Working People with Disabilities 6 Child in Foster Care (Chaffee): MAGI administered in WMS COBRA 6

What to do with Excess Income? Spenddown; Supplemental Needs Trust; Spousal Refusal; Medicaid Buy-In for Working People with Disabilities (MBI-WPD); Medicare Savings Programs; For MLTC: Spousal Budgeting; and Housing Disregard 7 7

Spenddown To qualify for spenddown you must either Have (incur) medical bills which meet or exceed your spenddown obligation or Pre-pay ( pay-in ) the amount of your monthly spenddown Spenddown amount must be met each month to activate Medicaid coverage Clients need six months worth of spenddown to activate inpatient hospital coverage 8 8

More on spenddown Medicaid applicants can use bills from prior months to meet future spenddown PAID bill from past 3 months, plus month of application UNPAID bills (no time limit) if still viable Money paid by certain other programs counts towards spenddown: EPIC ADAP Remember that you can get deemed into Extra Help by meeting spenddown for just one month Also pooled supplemental needs trust can be used to meet spenddown 9 9

SNTs Pooled Trust for shielding income. Excess income deposited directly into the trust Only for people with disabilities (including age 65+ with disability). Trust can pay third parties for shelter, food, clothing, recurring bills, etc. (Different trusts have different rules) No direct payments to beneficiary 10 10

Pooled Income Trust (cont d) Must be established by a non-profit that pools deposits of multiple beneficiaries o List of pooled trusts in NY: http://www.wnylc.com/health/entry/4/ Pooled trusts have start up costs and monthly fees. Amounts vary by trust. Remainder stays with the trust. 11 11

Pooled Income Trust (cont d) People 65+ must obtain a disability determination if they don t already have one o Requires several forms to be submitted to LDSS with trust. See http://www.wnylc.com/health/entry/44/ How much to contribute? o Spenddown Amount o Less than Spenddown If low monthly bills and concerns about accumulating a balance 12 12

Medicaid Buy-In for Working People with Disabilities Must be certified disabled, aged 16-65, working (no minimum number of hours) Income threshold: 250% FPL after income disregards have been applied More generous resource disregards Retirement accounts excluded $20,000 asset limit / singles; $30,000 asset limit / couples http://www.health.ny.gov/health_care/medicaid/progra m/buy_in/ Can reimburse cost of Part B premiums, if not eligible for MSP enrollment 13 13

Other MBI-WPD Eligibility Factors No minimum number of working hours No Substantial Gainful Activity (SGA) requirement No minimum wage requirement Must be disabled, or potentially disabled and can have disability determined by State disability Review Team but not necessarily on SSD Can be on waiting period for Medicare or receiving Medicare. Can also get MSP, but not QI. Technically supposed to have a premium between 150-250% FPL, but there is moratorium on these premiums now (see GIS 14 MA/013) Retirement accounts do not count toward resource limits 14 14

2 Eligibility Groups Basic Coverage regular MBI-WPD Medical Improvement allows for coverage to continue when a person is still considered disabled or impaired, but is considered to be medically improving. Must work 40 hours/mo, but can request a grace period See 10ADM-2 for further info https://www.health.ny.gov/health_care/medicaid/publicati ons/docs/adm/10adm-2.pdf https://www.health.ny.gov/health_care/medicaid/refere nce/mdm/mdm-officialpolicy.pdf 15 15

Medicare Savings Programs Three different programs: QMB (100% FPL or $1,012/$1,372) SLMB (120% FPL or $1,214/$1,646) QI (135% FPL or $1,366/$1,852) All pay for Part B monthly premium QMB also covers Part A premiums, deductibles and co-pays QMB and SLIMB recipients can also receive Medicaid Apply through local Medicaid office or via SSA Extra Help application MSP removes Part B late enrollment penalty / waiting period to enroll! Cannot spenddown to MSP level, but may use SNT. 16 16

Spousal Refusal When spouse s income is a barrier to enrolling in Medicaid Spouse must sign refusal form with LDSS/HRA Refusing spouse may be sued Refusing spouse ineligible for Medicaid May be used to access Medicaid and MSP 17 17

Options for MLTC Beneficiaries Housing Disregard (in limited circumstances) Spousal Budgeting 18 18

MLTC Housing Allowance Income disregard available to individuals discharged to the community from: A Nursing Home, or An Adult Home Cannot already be in MLTC If married, cannot use both spousal impoverishment protections and the Housing Disregard must choose 19 19

MLTC Housing Allowance Requirements 1. Nursing Home or Adult Home stay Nursing Home for at least 30 days prior to day of discharge AND Medicaid made a payment towards nursing home stay OR Adult Home stay prior to discharge AND on Medicaid while in the adult home 2. Have a housing expense 12 ADM-05: (https://www.health.ny.gov/health_care/medicaid/publications/adm/12adm5.htm) 20 20

MLTC Housing Allowance (2018) Region Counties Deduction Central Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Cortland, Herkimer, Jefferson, Lewis, Madison, Oneida, Onondaga, Oswego, St. Lawrence, Tioga, Tompkins $417 Long Island Nassau, Suffolk $1,274 NYC Bronx, Kings, Manhattan, Queens, Richmond $1,305 Northeastern Northern Metropolitan Rochester Western Albany, Clinton, Columbia, Delaware, Essex, Franklin, Fulton, Greene, Hamilton, Montgomery, Otsego, Rensselaer, Saratoga, Schenectady, Schoharie, Warren, Washington Dutchess, Orange, Putnam, Rockland, Sullivan, Ulster, Westchester Chemung, Livingston, Monroe, Ontario, Schuyler, Seneca, Steuben, Wayne, Yates Allegany, Cattaraugus, Chautauqua, Erie, Genesee, Niagara, Orleans, Wyoming $467 $935 $424 $367 21 21

Spousal Impoverishment Budgeting Option for married couples where one spouse is in MLTC o (also used when spouse is in a waiver program or nursing home) o Works almost the same as for nursing home with some minor variations MLTC applicant with a Community Spouse may shelter: o Up to $3,090/month of joint income o Plus retain $391/month personal needs allowance o Up to $74,820 of assets GIS 17 MA/020-2018 Medicaid Levels and Other Updates https://www.health.ny.gov/health_care/medicaid/publications/gis/17ma020.htm 22 22

Case Scenario: Morgan & Chris Morgan and Chris are married M C Both are on Social Security Disability (SSD) & receive Medicare Morgan needs community-based long term care Morgan applies for Medicaid Morgan Chris Income $2,000 $1,500 Medicare Part B premium $134 $134 23 23

Spousal Impoverishment Budgeting Terminology Community Spouse (CS) Spouse that is not in need of MLTC Institutionalized or MLTC Spouse Spouse that needs MLTC Minimum Monthly Maintenance Needs Allowance (MMMNA) - Maximum income the community spouse may keep ($3,090 ) Community Spouse Monthly Income Allowance (CSMIA) Amount the MLTC spouse may shift to the community spouse to bring CS income up to MMMNA Personal Needs Allowance (PNA) Amount the MLTC spouse may keep ($391 ) 24 24

Step 1: Determine Max CSMIA CSMIA = MMMNA CS s Net Income 1. Determine Community Spouse s Net Income 2. Subtract Community Spouse s Net Income from MMMNA Chris s Net Income SSD $1,500 Part B -$134 Net Income $1,366 Chris s CSMIA MMMNA $3,090 Net income -$1,366 CSMIA $1,724 25 25

Step 2: Apply CSMIA & PNA Morgan & Chris keep all of their income M C Chris gets less than the max CSMIA, because the couple s income is not high They have no spenddown, but could if their income were higher Morgan Chris Net Income $1,846 $1,366 PNA (amount Morgan keeps) -$391 CSMIA ( transferred to Chris) -$1,455 $1,455 Excess Income/Spenddown $0 26 26

Converting to Spousal Impoverishment Budgeting Enrolling in MLTC doesn t automatically change the budgeting! As soon as applicant is enrolled in an MLTC, submit DOH Request for spousal Impoverishment Assessment Form to LDSS / HRA o HRA and some other counties prefer MLTC Plan, not Member, submit this request Form available at page 9 of www.health.ny.gov/health_care/medicaid/program/upd ate/2014/mar14_mu.pdf 27 27

Questions? 28 28

Contact Information Health Intake 1-800-724-0490 x5822 health@empirejustice.org 29 29