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MINISTRY OF FINANCE REPUBLIC OF INDONESIA Asia-Pacific Outreach Meeting on Sustainable Development Financing 10-11 June 2014 Djuanda Hall, Ministry of Finance Complex, Jakarta Session 1: Domestic resource mobilization Presentation Domestic Resource Mobilisation through Public Finance: Some Reflections from Emerging Economies (EMEs) in Developing Asia by Rathin Roy Director, National Institute of Public Finance and Policy, India June 2014 The views expressed in the presentation/paper are those of the author(s) and should not necessarily be considered as reflecting the views or carrying the endorsement of the United Nations. This presentation/paper has been issued without formal editing.

Dr. Rathin Roy, Director National Institute of Public Finance and Policy New Delhi A transformational change in the incidence of global savings in recent years has important implications for fiscal space in Developing Asia. The use of fiscal space for countercyclical fiscal policy can vary; there are important lessons to be learnt from Asian Emerging Market Economies (EMEs). In large EMEs, it is not automatically true that the Central Government is more prudent than Sub-National Governments. This has implications for optimising fiscal space.

Section- I Savings and Fiscal Space Fiscal space, Savings and Inclusive growth Figure 1. Gross Domestic Savings(as % of GDP) Source: World Development Indicators

Fiscal space, Savings and Inclusive growth Asia has enough savings to finance the growth requirements of the region. Regional co-operation to maximize the disposition of these savings for public and private investment then opens up fiscal space for countries to prudently utilize their current revenues for spending on merit and public goods for inclusive growth that require increases in current expenditure. Source: World Development Indicators Figure2. Total Government Revenue (% of GDP) The EMEs, as is to be expected, show no congruence, though trends for each taken individually are stable. China records a secular rise in its revenue GDP ratio. India performs badly on this score with temporary improvements in good years being reversed in bad years Source: ADB Database, Country Profiles

Public Expenditure: How varied or common is the fiscal stance? Figure3. Total Government Expenditure (% of GDP) In the case of the EMEs China has matched increased revenue GDP ratios with increases in public spending; the ratio has stayed more or less constant in India and fallen since 2008 in Indonesia Source: ADB Database, Country Profiles Section- II Fiscal Space and Countercyclical Fiscal Policy

Economic Crisis National Elections INDIA Fiscal Stimulus of 4% of GDP introduced in 2008 Impact on Sub-National Finances Combined Fiscal Deficit of 11.4 % of GDP in 2008 Implications for India s debt ratings, but not as immediate as was feared India s public debt GDP ratio declined from 73% in FY2008 to 66.36% in FY 2011 Why was this the case? This was because the tradition of fiscal prudence for both the Centre and the States set in place by the 12 th Finance Commission (2004) and reinforced by the 13 th Finance Commission (2010) led to increased fiscal discipline at the State level. State deficits thus declined to more manageable levels shortly after the crisis.

On the other hand, with inflation at around 10 per cent, the nominal value of GDP continued to rise faster than the nominal value of debt. Thus, debt sustainability ratios stayed under control. In addition the low ratio of external debt to total debt in India and the extremely high proportion of long-term debt in total debt meant that debt management was relatively easy. Debt sustainability did not threaten India s macroeconomic fundamentals; rather the fact that the fiscal stimulus did not result in the expected growth response which led to increasing macroeconomic difficulties for India and the consequent pressure to reduce deficits and therefore fiscal space.

Economic Crisis CHINA Fiscal Stimulus of 14% of GDP introduced in 2008 and 2009 Fiscal Deficit of 2.3 % of GDP in 2009 > 0.5% of GDP in 2008 Since then China s growth rate reverted to its 9.6 per cent median growth rate for the period 1995-201 Thus, fiscal expansion in China was accompanied by the requisite growth payback, thus ensuring fiscal sustainability In the case of China, the government provided a massive fiscal stimulus equivalent to 14 per cent of GDP for FY 2008 and 2009. This included a fiscal stimulus that is expected to result in a fiscal deficit of 3 per cent of GDP in 2009. However, China had plenty of fiscal space to begin with; fiscal deficits had fallen to below 2 per cent of GDP by 2004 and to less than 0.5 per cent of GDP in 2008; the highest fiscal deficit incurred by China was therefore just 2.3 per cent of GDP in 2009. Since that date China s growth rate reverted to its 9.6 per cent median growth rate for the period 1995-2011, thus, fiscal expansion in China was accompanied by the requisite growth payback, thus ensuring fiscal sustainability

Thus, fiscal expansion in China was accompanied by the requisite growth payback, thus ensuring fiscal sustainability. Economic Crisis MALAYSIA Fiscal Deficit of 6.7 % of GDP in 2009 > 4.6% of GDP in 2007 Malaysia s Fiscal Deficit reduced to 4.8 per cent, median rate for the period 1995-2011 This limited stimulus had little impact on growth, or medium term macro-fiscal policy To some extent this was necessitated by worsening debt dynamics, both an increase in the debt/gdp ratio to over 50 per cent of GDP in the post crisis period, well above the 1995-2011 median, and an increase in the ratio of relatively more expensive external debt to total debt.

In the case of Malaysia, there was an extremely short term fiscal response to the crisis, equivalent to an increase in the fiscal deficit from 4.6 per cent of GDP in 2007 to 6.7 per cent of GDP in 2009. But this was a one year expansion deficits then reduced down to 4.8 per cent of GDP in 2011 equivalent to the median fiscal deficit of Malaysia for the 1995-2011 period. This was necessitated by worsening debt dynamics, both an increase in the debt/gdp ratio to over 50 per cent of GDP in the post crisis period, well above the 1995-2011 median, and an increase in the ratio of relatively more expensive external debt to total debt. This limited stimulus had little impact on growth, or medium term macro-fiscal policy This limited stimulus had little impact on growth, or medium term macro-fiscal policy

Fiscal Reforms: Public financial Management & Structural changes in Intergovernmental fiscal relations. Fiscal rules ( Fiscal deficit to 3% of GDP; debt/gdp ratio at 60% of GDP)) Economic Crisis of 1998 INDONESIA Indonesia s Fiscal Deficit reduced to 1.1 per cent, median rate for the period 1995-2011, concomitant decline in debt//gdp ratio Fiscal deficit of 0.7% of GDP in 2010. Fall in both revenue and expenditure as % of GDP since 2008. Thus, fiscal stimulus was not expansionary but involved stimulating the private sector through tax cuts and fall in government/gdp ratio 2009 fiscal stimulus included tax cuts (2/3rd of stimulus) and expansionary fiscal policy by increase in public spending and subsidies. Indonesia went through a fairly long process of fiscal reforms. The fiscal deficit-gdp ratio declined continuously. The median fiscal deficit in the 1995-2011 period was therefore a very low 1.1 per cent of GDP. Indonesia also had in place a fiscal rule which limits the fiscal deficit to 3 per cent of GDP and the ceiling debt-gdp ratio at 60 per cent of GDP

Indonesia s 2009 fiscal stimulus package involved an expansionary fiscal policy as well as tax cuts. Over two thirds of the stimulus came from tax cuts and the rest through increased public spending and subsidies. Chiefly due to inability in increasing public spending, the 2010 fiscal deficit was 0.7 per cent of GDP, as against a target of 1.3 per cent. As a consequence, both revenues and expenditures fell as a percentage of GDP from 2008. Thus in Indonesia s case the fiscal stimulus was not expansionary but rather involved stimulating the private sector through tax cuts and a fall in the government(g/gdp) ratio.

Section- III Fiscal Space and Fiscal Federalism States 1998-99 1999-00 2000-01 2001-02 2002-03 2003-04 2004-05 2005-06 Andhra Pradesh 2.3 1.0 2.5 1.8 1.8 1.6 1.1 0.0 Bihar 1.9 7.1 5.2 4.1 3.8 1.7-1.4-0.1 Gujarat 2.7 3.3 5.7 5.4 2.5 2.2 2.0 0.2 Kerala 3.6 5.2 4.3 3.3 4.7 3.8 3.1 2.3 Madhya Pradesh 3.1 3.7 1.7 3.7 1.3 4.4-1.5 0.0 Maharashtra 1.9 1.7 3.1 3.0 3.1 2.4 2.4 0.8 Orissa 6.4 6.0 4.4 6.0 3.1 2.3 0.7-0.6 Punjab 4.7 4.1 3.1 4.7 4.6 4.0 3.5 1.1 Rajasthan 4.1 4.4 3.2 4.1 4.4 3.1 1.7 0.5 Tamil Nadu 2.9 3.3 2.3 1.8 3.1 0.9 0.3-0.8 Uttar Pradesh 5.3 4.1 3.5 3.2 2.5 8.2 2.7 0.4 West Bengal 4.2 6.9 5.3 5.6 5.1 4.8 3.9 3.2 All GCS 3.1 3.4 3.2 3.4 3.0 3.0 1.6 0.4 Centre 3.71 3.34 3.91 3.91 3.91 3.91 3.91 3.91 Source: Handbook of statistics on Indian economy, RBI

States 2006-07 2007-08 2008-09 2009-10 2010-11 2011-12 2012-13 2013-14*(BE) Andhra Pradesh -0.9 0.0-0.2-0.3-0.4-0.5-0.2-0.1 Bihar -2.5-4.1-3.1-1.8-3.1-1.9 0.2-1.8 Gujarat -0.6-0.7 0.0 1.6 1.0-0.5-0.6 NA Madhya Pradesh -2.3-3.2-2.1-2.4-2.6-3.2-1.7-1.2 Maharashtra -0.1-2.2-0.7 0.9 0.1 0.2 0.0 NA Orissa -2.2-3.3-2.3-0.7-2.0-2.6-1.2-0.7 Rajasthan -0.4-0.8 0.4 1.8-0.3-0.8-0.2-0.2 Tamil Nadu -0.9-1.3-0.4 0.7 0.5-0.2-0.1-0.1 Uttar Pradesh -1.5-0.9-0.4-1.3-0.6-1.0-0.7-1.1 Kerala 1.7 2.2 1.8 2.2 1.4 2.6 1.0 NA Punjab 1.4 2.5 2.2 2.7 2.3 2.7 1.7 0.5 West Bengal 3.2 2.7 4.3 5.4 3.7 2.7 2.1 0.5 All GCS -0.5-0.8 0.0 0.7 0.1-0.2 0.0-0.4 Centre 1.87 1.87 1.87 1.87 1.87 1.87 1.87 1.87 States no longer borrow to consume. *BE= Budget Estimates NA= Not Available Source: Handbook of statistics on Indian economy, RBI 0 GCS States Revenue Surplus 8 GCS States- Andhra Pradesh, Bihar, Gujarat, Madhya Pradesh, Rajasthan, Odisha, Tamil Nadu, Uttar Pradesh 1998-99 12 GCS States- Andhra Pradesh, Bihar, Gujarat, Kerala, Madhya Pradesh, Rajasthan, Punjab, Odisha, Tamil Nadu, Uttar Pradesh, West Bengal 2004-05 Revenue Deficit 2012-13 3 GCS States- Kerala, Punjab, West Bengal

States have always outperformed the Centre in keeping its fiscal deficits low since 1981-82. Both States and Centre have been running revenue deficits. However, States have improved their macro-fiscal position since 2003-04. Most of GCSs have been running balanced revenue budgets since 2008-09 (excluding Kerala, Punjab and West Bengal). This is as true for rich States like Maharashtra and Gujarat as for poorer States like Bihar, Orissa and UP.

The Centre has for some time not been the locus for public investment, which is principally undertaken by the States. States (as % of GSDP) invest more than the Centre. The share of capital outlay in Central Plan has been shrinking since 2000-01. Thus, the heavy lifting in terms of public investment is being done by states. China s local government debt rose to almost $3trillion in 2013 (China s National Audit Office (NAO) Report,2013). The NAO s latest estimate for local government debt is equivalent to a little more than 30 per cent of gross domestic product, compared to 25 per cent of GDP at the end of 2010. China s total public debt now stands at 53.3 per cent, with corporate debt estimated at 111 per cent.

In large EMEs, it is not automatically true that the Central Government is more prudent than the sub-national governments. Sub-national governments seem to be able to better deal with fiscal prudence in the face of interest group pressures than the central governments. However, in terms of both equity and efficiency, major taxes are best collected at Centre and devolved to sub-national governments. Therefore, there appears to be a case for restructuring the revenue and expenditure assignment of sub-national governments and Central government to optimise fiscal space.