Edward J. DeMarco Remarks as Prepared for Delivery. Charlotte, NC. May 13, 2014

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Edward J. DeMarco Remarks as Prepared for Delivery 2014 Credit Markets Symposium Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond Charlotte, NC May 13, 2014 It is an honor to be here today. The questions being posed at this year s Symposium are important ones. After nearly a decade of economic disruption, halting recovery, intense regulatory and law enforcement response, and a substantial increase in regulations, it is worthwhile to step back and assess both the implementation and impact of the post- crisis regulatory landscape. Unlike some of the other issues being considered at this conference, housing finance is still awaiting legislation that will address the many systemic and institutional failings of the past decade. While reform legislation such as Dodd- Frank has generated a tremendous volume of new rules, regulators, and regulatory processes affecting our financial system and credit intermediation, housing finance remains unfinished business. I served as conservator of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac for four- and- one- half years, and the conservatorships themselves are approaching their sixth anniversary. No one anticipated this duration, and I have said repeatedly that we need legislation to bring the conservatorships to an end and to build a new model for the future. I believe that we can and will get there. Legislating housing finance changes is hard, partly because so many things went wrong. Lenders, borrowers, Fannie and Freddie, Wall Street firms, housing advocates, regulators, and lawmakers all have some culpability. At this point, we really need to focus our attention on the country s future. Rather than striving to preserve a system that failed so spectacularly and in so many ways, we need to find our courage and our creativity to build a new system. We need to think about new ways of ensuring a stable and liquid flow of credit for housing, and new approaches to accomplishing policy goals that rely where possible on markets and competition. We need to believe in the capacity of markets to serve people, and in the power of transparency and clear rules to facilitate market development. This is not the 1930s or even the 1970s. Advances in technology, law, and experience surely give us an opportunity to take a new approach. The state of housing today is really a reflection of broader economic fundamentals the strength of the labor market, the degree of confidence in job security, the pace of

household formation, and broader household balance sheet concerns such as the adequacy of retirement savings and the constraints imposed by the explosive growth of student loans. Let me focus more specifically on the secondary mortgage market. The pre- conservatorship business model of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, often referred to generically as the Government Sponsored Enterprise or GSE model, was established to promote liquidity and provide stability in housing finance on a national basis. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac accomplished this task by linking mortgage originators to capital markets. They did this by developing standards, guaranteeing mortgage- backed securities, and purchasing mortgages. They were established as unique entities chartered by Congress, owned by private shareholders, provided a specific set of benefits not available to other private companies, and given a public mission. GSE status conveyed important benefits such as the ability to fund operations with much less capital and to borrow at lower interest rates than other private sector companies. Some of this benefit was passed on to borrowers in terms of lower borrowing rates. Over the years questions were raised as to how much of the benefit remained with management and shareholders. Also, to the extent a rate subsidy was passed on to borrowers, it surely resulted in higher house prices, thereby transmitting some portion of the subsidy to existing homeowners, not homebuyers. Taxpayers were paying for this subsidy, and the bill came due in 2008. While a private label securitization market began growing rapidly last decade, it quickly collapsed and vanished at the first signs of the housing bubble bursting. The failure of Fannie and Freddie was not far behind. As the housing downturn worsened in 2008, it became evident that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac could no longer raise capital and by late summer were having difficulty issuing debt. This led to the enactment of the Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008, or HERA, on July 30, 2008. Among other things, HERA created FHFA and provided explicit authority for the Treasury Department to provide financial support to Fannie and Freddie. Over the next month, as housing and financial market conditions deteriorated further, more questions were raised about the continued viability of the companies. On September 6, 2008, FHFA placed them into conservatorships and the Treasury Department agreed to provide financial support through the Senior Preferred Stock Purchase Agreements. There should be no doubt that this set of events and the billions of dollars in subsequent losses meant that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac had failed. But it was not just Fannie and Freddie that failed. The broader secondary market had 2

collapsed and in the absence of government support to keep Fannie and Freddie operating, the country and the economy would have been dealt an even greater blow. By the time the conservatorships were established, Fannie and Freddie were the only existing infrastructure for providing mortgage securitization of non- government- guaranteed mortgages. Only the taxpayer financial support provided by Treasury allowed Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to continue as operating entities. There were no private sector investors willing to invest any amount of equity capital into these companies at that time. There was broad consensus at the time that not only did Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac fail, but the GSE model had failed, and that Congress had to establish a new housing finance market. This is why former Treasury Secretary Paulson referred to the conservatorships as a time out to allow future policymakers an opportunity to consider a new structure for housing finance. The Secretary went on to say: Because the GSEs are Congressionally- chartered, only Congress can address the inherent conflict of attempting to serve both shareholders and a public mission. The new Congress and the next Administration must decide what role government in general, and these entities in particular, should play in the housing market. There is a consensus today that these enterprises pose a systemic risk and they cannot continue in their current form... We will make a grave error if we don t use this time out to permanently address the structural issues presented by the GSEs. i I firmly believe Secretary Paulson was correct then, and his statement remains as true today as it did then. So where do we start? Restoring Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac is not the solution. They failed and their business model failed. Going backwards to an obviously failed model cannot be dressed up with some promise of higher capital or explicit rather than implicit guarantees. We need to move forward, to create a secondary mortgage market that is competitive, transparent, and accessible, and one where investors understand how their interests will be protected. Fortunately, there are some things on which there appears to be broad consensus. For example, between Fannie, Freddie, FHA, and other government guaranteed mortgage programs, taxpayers directly supported about 80 percent of new mortgage production last year. Everyone, or virtually everyone, wants to dial that number down substantially, although that still leaves a lot of room for debate as to where it ultimately rests. Since no one appears to be talking of abolishing the FHA or VA loan programs, the dial will not go to zero. That still leaves a lot of room for debate. 3

There are multiple legislative proposals on the table in both the House and Senate. That is a very good thing. Rather than focusing on their details, I will touch on four broad areas of consideration. First, legislation seeks to shift mortgage credit risk, at least to some meaningful degree, from taxpayers to private capital. That is an entirely good and appropriate thing to do. Second, legislation has to establish new infrastructures institutional, legal, regulatory, and technical. What replaces the functions provided by Fannie and Freddie, to the extent those functions are still needed? What entities, if any, need to be chartered, and by what government agency, to carry out requirements of the new system? What legal requirements are needed to ensure orderly functioning of markets, including transparency in securities markets? What technical requirements need to be defined, and by what entity, to facilitate market functioning? For instance, data standards, an electronic mortgage repository, and regulatory reporting are all technical aspects of the market that may need standards and infrastructure. Third, there are public policy considerations concerning credit availability or, put more accurately, concerning the social benefit of home ownership that might not be fully realized in a private system of credit. Whether one agrees with the premise or not, the reality of achieving housing finance legislation is the need for some method or methods of addressing concerns that there is a social benefit to homeownership. On the margin, markets will only realize that social benefit with subsidies to lower costs or increase demand. Even so, there are ways of addressing this that are targeted and incentive- compatible with sustainable homeownership and ways that are indiscriminate and risk inducing. Finally, there are considerations about market efficiency and competition. Complex rules or mandates, high costs of entry, costly and complex compliance regimes, each may advance one policy objective but at the cost of another. For some, this consideration is framed in terms of price, that prices will be too high. This can mean different things. If the price is too high because government rules make participating in the mortgage market costly or risky, that is one thing to consider. If the price is too high because a borrower s credit risk, properly priced, makes a loan to that borrower more expensive than a loan to a more credit worthy borrower, that is a different thing to consider. So where are we right now? A lot of important work has started. In the House, there are at least three bills pending, including a bill put forth by the Chairman of House Financial Services, Rep. Hensarling, and one put forth by the ranking member, Rep. Waters. In the Senate, a bipartisan effort initiated by Senators Corker and Warner has grown into a bipartisan proposal put forth by the 4

Chairman and the Ranking Member of the Senate Banking Committee, Senators Johnson and Crapo. There has been much activity recently in the Senate in trying to move this bill to a committee markup, which would be a very welcome development. The Obama Administration has been consistently advocating for a wind down of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and for legislation that replaces the old Fannie- Freddie model with a new one. It has strongly supported the Senate continuing its efforts along the Corker- Warner and Johnson- Crapo path. On the regulatory front, I can speak to FHFA s efforts the past few years to facilitate the transition from the old system to a new one. In February 2012, FHFA put forth a Strategic Plan for the conservatorships in which we set forth three broad strategic goals: 1. Build. Build a new infrastructure for the secondary mortgage market. 2. Contract. Gradually contract Fannie and Freddie s dominant presence in the marketplace while simplifying and shrinking their operations. 3. Maintain. Maintain foreclosure prevention activities and credit availability for new and refinanced mortgages. We identified specific activities to achieve these goals in a Conservator s Scorecard in 2012 and 2013 and much progress on those goals has been achieved. In particular, the transition to a new system has already begun. FHFA directed Fannie and Freddie to establish a joint venture, Common Securitization Solutions, to develop a common securitization platform that can replace the two companies outdated and inefficient infrastructures. This entity may ultimately serve as a market utility in a post- conservatorship world, should Congress so decide. Important progress on mortgage credit risk sharing with private capital has been made, and more risk- sensitive pricing that avoids discriminating against smaller originators has also been initiated. An array of market participants and advocates are now fully engaged. This is good. A democratic society should have a robust and open debate about housing. Housing is a critical part of the economy and is something every citizen requires as a basic necessity of life. Yet, the debate should also be informed, and should be carried out in a fashion worthy of a civil and free society. Rather than cutting off debate, we need an informed debate, one that strives to be honest about costs, risks, subsidies, and trade- offs. We need both the House and the Senate to proceed so ultimately we get competing approaches from each body. These competing bills may then be debated and 5

weighed against each other. We may find through such debate paths emerge that actually improve and simplify the frameworks as currently put forth by various sponsors. I would like to conclude with a few views of my own on this important debate. First, simple generally is better than complex. As this conference is exploring in other contexts, complex legislation leads to complex regulation, which leads to uncertainty and restraint in lending activity. It also drives up costs, making credit more expensive and compliance burdens greater. While in some cases the net benefit of complexity outweighs the costs, I doubt that is often the case. Second, do not confuse weakening underwriting standards and under- pricing risk with helping people or promoting market efficiency. A government effort to assist families with limited resources and poor credit history take on increased leverage seems a curious public policy. Surely we can agree that government endorsement of weakened credit standards and encouragement to lend to borrowers with poor track records managing credit contributed to disastrous outcomes for vulnerable families the past ten years. How much better would it be to help such families become economically more secure and to help them repair their credit before taking on more debt? For most families, equity in a home is better than debt on the home. So, we really ought to think about questions of access and affordability from the view of household balance sheets and a family s economic security. Third, lawmakers need to reconcile the purpose of FHA/Ginnie Mae with the role of a private secondary mortgage market. Since the 1930s, the United States has had the Federal Housing Administration providing an explicit government guarantee on mortgages, mortgages typically targeted for first- time homebuyers and borrowers of limited means. If we also establish a new secondary mortgage market system to replace Fannie and Freddie and we impose mandates on this system to achieve social policy goals, how do lawmakers propose this new system and FHA relate to each other? Are they competing against each other? If taxpayers back both systems, does the risk migrate to where it is under- priced and does competition between government programs lead to such under- pricing? Finally, in view of the mammoth failure of the old system, I suggest a measure of skepticism in considering arguments that trying something new is risky or that we cannot do better than what we had. Often you will find someone protecting an existing interest, whether that interest is a business interest or a political interest, in preserving the status quo. A free economy depends upon a free and vibrant financial system to allocate scarce capital. As a country, our collective belief has been in the power of independent decisions by those providing capital to lead to outcomes that promote growth and increase national wealth. We also have a long tradition of taking steps as a 6

government to ensure that when market forces alone cannot account for public benefits or costs in the economy, that the government can take steps that account for these externalities in a market setting. As a country, this is our time to consider these issues for housing finance. We have had a great failure in the housing finance system. Millions of families have been harmed, losing trillions of dollars in personal wealth. Private capital sits on the sidelines, waiting for the government to make up its mind. We cannot wait any longer. We must replace this system with something better. i Text of Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson s remarks at the announcement of the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac conservatorships, September 7, 2008. 7