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Welsh Grand Committee Standard Note: SN/PC/05740 Last updated: 29 October 2010 Author: Paul Bowers Section Parliament and Constitution Centre Some Members representing Welsh constituencies called for a meeting of the Welsh Grand Committee in order to discuss the impact on of the Parliamentary Voting System and Constituencies Bill 2010. The Secretary of State, Cheryl Gillan, declined. This Note gives a very brief account of the business of the Committee and a list of its previous meetings. Further information on the bill is available in SN/5697/PCC, Parliamentary Voting System and Constituencies Bill 2010: progress of the Bill, 27 October 2010, and Research Paper 10/55, The Parliamentary Voting System and Constituencies Bill [Bill 63 of 2010-11], 1 September 2010. Contents 1 The Territorial Grand Committees 2 1.1 Welsh Grand Committee 2 2 List of meetings 2 2.1 Business 10 3 The Parliamentary Voting System and Constituencies Bill 2010 11 This information is provided to Members of Parliament in support of their parliamentary duties and is not intended to address the specific circumstances of any particular individual. It should not be relied upon as being up to date; the law or policies may have changed since it was last updated; and it should not be relied upon as legal or professional advice or as a substitute for it. A suitably qualified professional should be consulted if specific advice or information is required. This information is provided subject to our general terms and conditions which are available online or may be provided on request in hard copy. Authors are available to discuss the content of this briefing with Members and their staff, but not with the general public.

1 The Territorial Grand Committees The Welsh Grand Committee is one of three currently operating. The others cover Scotland and Northern Ireland; there were short-lived English regional committees towards the end of the 2005 Parliament. The composition and business of these committees is covered by Standing Orders. SO 102 108 cover the Welsh Grand Committee. 1.1 Welsh Grand Committee The Welsh Grand Committee was established in the 1959-60 session, and held its first meeting on 11 May 1960. It includes all Members representing Welsh constituencies, plus a maximum of five other Members nominated by the Committee of Selection. The quorum is seven, including the Chairman. The Committee usually meets at Westminster, but since the early 1990s it has also had the capacity to meet in, and it has done so a number of times. 2 List of meetings The following list is derived from Sessional Returns, Standing Committee debates, and Sessional Information Digests, plus PIMS for the current session. The more recent entries have been cross-checked with PQs and the parliamentary website. The subject matter is for the main debates; the Committee may also put questions and hear statements from Ministers. Session No. of matters Subject 1959-60 1 1 Report on Developments and Government Action in and Monmouthshire, 1959 1960-61 2 Report on Developments etc (as above), 1959 Report on Developments etc (as above), 1960 1961-62 2 Broadcasting, including TV, in and Monmouthshire Report on Developments, etc (as above), 1961 1962-63 4 Education in and Monmouthshire Industry and Employment in and Monmouthshire Transport in and Monmouthshire 1 The first meeting of the Welsh Grand Committee was on 11 May 1960. 2

Tourism in and Monmouthshire 1963-64 3 Regional Development in and Monmouthshire Health Services in and Monmouthshire Rural Development in and Monmouthshire 1964-65 4 Functions of the Secretary of State for and Constitutional Changes in and Monmouthshire Mid- Development and Depopulation Problems Agriculture in and Monmouthshire Iron Ore Ports and Industrial Development in and Monmouthshire 1965-66 1 Report of the Committee on the Legal Status of the Welsh Language 1966-67 4 Industry in and Monmouthshire Education in and Monmouthshire Rural Development in and Monmouthshire Roads and Communications in and Monmouthshire 1967-68 2 Agriculture in and Monmouthshire Primary Education in and Monmouthshire 1968-69 2 Statement of Government Proposals for Reorganising Local Government in Health and Welfare Services in 1969-70 3 Housing in and Monmouthshire The Welsh Language 3

White Paper on Local Government Reorganisation in Glamorgan and Monmouthshire 1970-71 6 Effects of the Chancellor of the Exchequer's Statement on Public Expenditure on the Welsh Economy Local Government Finance in and Monmouthshire South Ports Economic Situation in and Monmouthshire Reform of Local Government in National Health Service Reorganisation in 1971-72 4 Communications in The Coal and Steel Industries in Housing in Radio and Television in 1972-73 5 National Health Service Reorganisation in Bilingual Traffic Signs in Unemployment in The Handicapped in Steel Industry in 1973-74 1 Education 1974 2 Agriculture and Rural Affairs Housing 1974-75 5 Education Energy Industries Economy 4

Industry and Employment Environment 1975-76 4 Development of Rural (Lords) Bill Economy in Housing in Effect of Devolution in 1976-77 3 Health Services in Transport and Communications in Small Businesses in 1977-78 3 Arts in Welsh Development Agency Youth Unemployment in 1978-79 1 The Welsh Economy 1979-80 6 The Welsh Economy Report of the Price Commission, "Welsh Water Authority - Water, Sewerage and Environmental Services" The Economy of Health and Social Services in Effect of the Budget on The Welsh Language 1980-81 5 Housing in The Consequences of the Budget and the Government s Economic Policies in Reorganisation of the National Health Service in 5

Rural Affairs in Welsh Development Agency 1981-82 5 Housing in Ports in Education and Training in Annual Report of the Tourist Board for the year ended 31 March 1982 Regional Policy in 1982-83 2 Conwy Tunnel (Supplementary Powers) Bill National Health Service in 1983-84 5 National Health Service in Transport in Water in Housing and Urban Development in Rural Affairs in 1984-85 5 Transport in Regional Policy as it affects The Budget and the Government's Economic Policies in The Welsh Economy Education and Training in 1985-86 3 The Elderly in Roads Programme and Transport Infrastructure in Welsh Development Agency 6

1986-87 2 The Queen's Speech and its effect on Economic, Industrial and Commercial Development in The National Health Service in and Education and Training for Employment in The Effect of Government Legislation on the people of 1988-89 4 The Effects of the Queen's Speech on the People of Housing in The first Year of the Valleys Programme The National Health Service in 1989-90 3 Future Economy and Environment of North Welsh Office Policies and Provision for 1992 Inward Investment to 1990-91 3 Education and Training in Rural The Welsh Economy 1991-92 2 The Urban and Rural Regeneration of Education in 1992-93 3 Unemployment in The Structure of Government in Local Government in 1993-94 3 Implications of the Budget for Education Standards in 7

Health and Health Care in 1994-95 2 The Welsh Economy Health Care in 1995-96 2 Implications of the Gracious Speech Implications of the Budget for 1996-97 1 Implications of the Budget for 1997-98 5 The Government s Programme for North and the Government s Proposals for a Welsh Assembly Government Expenditure in 1998-99 The Rural Economy in The New Economic Agenda for 1998-99 2 Government Expenditure in 1999-2000 to 2001-2002 Transport Policy in 1999-00 5 Government s Legislative Programme and the Chancellor s Pre-Budget Report Budget Statement and its Implications for Welsh Economy Social Exclusion in Comprehensive Spending Review 2000-01 3 Government s Legislative Programme and the Chancellor s Pre-Budget Statement as they relate to 8

Building Safer Communities in Budget Statement and its Implications for 2001-02 4 Draft National Health Service () Bill Government s Legislative Programme as it relates to Pre-Budget Statement and its Implications for Budget Statement and its Implications for 2002-03 4 Draft Public Audit () Bill Government s Legislative Programme as Outlined in the Queen s Speech as it relates to Government s Pre-Budget Report as it relates to Economy in 2003-04 4 Draft Transport () Bill Government s Legislative Programme as outlined in the Queen s Speech as it relates to and Public Expenditure in Budget Statement and its Implications for Report of the Richard Commission 2004-05 1 Government s Legislative Programme as outlined in the Queen s Speech as it relates to and Public Expenditure in 2005-06 2 Government s Legislative Programme as it relates to Budget Statement and its Implications for 2006-07 1 Government s Legislative Programme as it relates to and public expenditure in 9

2007-08 3 Government s Legislative Programme as it relates to and public expenditure in Budget Statement and its Implications for Future of Energy in 2008-09 4 Public Expenditure in Legislative Programme () Budget Statement and its Implications for National Assembly for (Legislative Competence) (Welsh Language) Order 2009 2009-10 1 Government s Legislative Programme as outlined in the Queen s Speech as it relates to and Government expenditure in 2010-12 1 Government s Legislative Programme as outlined in the Queen s Speech and the Budget Statement as they relate to 2.1 Business The business of the Welsh Grand Committee may include the following: 2 Questions to Office Ministers Short debates on matters relating to, running to 30 minutes in total Bills, typically relating solely or mainly to, in lieu of debate in the House on second reading Ministerial statements Matters relating exclusively to, which are the main part of the discussions in the Committee Half-hour adjournment debate When considering Welsh matters the Committee may not express an opinion: it merely reports to the House that it has considered that matter. Where bills are referred to it, the Committee must recommend whether the bill should be read a second time. 3 2 3 Erskine May, 23 rd ed, 2004, pp830-31. Parliament: Functions, Practice and Procedures, J Griffith & M Ryle, 1989, p274. 10

3 The Parliamentary Voting System and Constituencies Bill 2010 A number of Welsh Members requested a debate in the Welsh Grand Committee on certain clauses of the Parliamentary Voting System and Constituencies Bill 2010, which would have the effect of reducing the number of Welsh constituencies at Westminster. The Secretary of State, Cheryl Gillan, declined. This gave rise to controversy, as expressed, for instance, by Owen Smith during Business Questions: 4 May I return to the important constitutional matters in the Parliamentary Voting System and Constituencies Bill that there has not been time to debate on the Floor of the House? One of them relates to. The main clauses relating to were debated yesterday, but we did not get to the critical clause clause 11, which relates specifically to the National Assembly although the Secretary of State for stated in a letter to all Welsh Members that that clause would be debated. Indeed, that was the very reason why she denied our request for a sitting of the Welsh Grand Committee. May I therefore ask the Leader of the House to make urgent representations to the Secretary of State for on the pressing need to reinstate the Welsh Grand Committee, so that we can debate that critical matter for the people of? Sir George Young replied: 5 I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman, but I cannot accede to that request. When I came into the Chamber to listen to the debate yesterday, was being discussed most of the time, so the notion that it has not been possible to discuss matters relating to simply does not stand up. There will be opportunities on Report to debate the parts of the Bill that were not reached in Committee but I have to say that if hon. Members want to reach the necessary clauses they should exert some self-discipline, and not speak interminably on certain matters so that key parts of the Bill are not reached. 4 5 HC Deb 21 October 2010, c1137. Ibid. 11