Decumulation, Problems, policies and potentials? Financial Advisers Annual Conference Grosvenor Financial Services Group Ltd 4 th November 2016

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Decumulation, Problems, policies and potentials? Financial Advisers Annual Conference Grosvenor Financial Services Group Ltd 4 th November 2016 Associate Professor Susan St John Retirement Policy and Research Centre Auckland Business School, University of Auckland s.stjohn@auckland.ac.nz http://www.rprc.auckland.ac.nz

1. Population What does NZ look like in the future? 2. What are the implications for society For individuals 3. Decumulation policies- do we have any? 2

Is there an elephant in the room?

27th March 2015 National Business Review 4

1. Ageing: Coming ready or not Population aged 65+ 2016 700,000 2050 1,400,000 5

But the current population is growing During the June 2016 year: NZ population grew by 97,300 (2.1%). Natural increase (births-deaths) 28,200 Net migration gain 69,100. New Zealand's population is estimated to increase by one person every 5 minutes and 2 seconds. 6 Stats NZ 2016

Age structure changes dramatically 65+ Children 0-14 7

New Zealand of the future- what will it look like? 8

Today s benign period of ageing? 9

Improvements in Life expectancy 10

Cohort life expectancy Cohort born 1951- reaching 65 today At Birth Females 82.5 (72 using period LE) Males 77.5 Having survived to age 65 Life expectancy is Females 88.9 Males 86.2 a further 20-25 years to live on average 11

Huge variability in outcomes- who wants to be 100? 12

2. Implications for society Affording our futures- LTFS 2013

E.g. Diabetes 20,000 Health costs of ageing Expensive chronic disease 18,000 16,000 2001 2011 2021 14,000 12,000 10,000 8,000 6,000 4,000 2,000 0 0-4 5-9 10-14 15-19 20-24 25-29.. 30-34 35-39 40-44 45-49 50-54 55-59 60-64 65-69 70-74 75-79 80-84 85-89 90+ Source: NZIER MoH 2004 14

Dementia 60,000 dementia sufferers today By 2026, increase by more than 60% Numbers expected to treble by mid century Huge costs for society 15

Figure 1: Historic Deaths and Future Projections of Deaths in New Zealand by Age Band palliative care implications Drawn from data from Statistics New Zealand Source: 16

Probability of being in long-term care Averaged for female and male 0.6 0.5 0.4 Expect 330,000-400,000 over 85 by mid century One in four of those over 65 0.3 0.2 0.1 0 70 75 80 85 90 95 100 Census 1996

3. Implications for individuals New Zealand Superannuation provides basic longevity insurance Middle income groups are on their own Lump sums may be used up too quickly KiwiSaver Other savings Home equity illiquid Risk of expensive healthcare- Long-term care costs 18

Distribution of net worth Stats NZ 2016 19

How much has been accumulated? Individual Net Worth Statistics: Yr June 2015 Age Median $ Mean $ 55-64 278,000 555,000 65+ 288,000 534,000 20

65+ share of income from NZS, investment, employment 21 (MSD 2016)

Risks faced by individuals 1. Possible changes to NZ Super Raising the age ( advocated by retirement Commissioner 2016) Reducing the level (dangerous) Aligning single and married rates Introducing a means test ( less likely)

The risks of ill health and long term care Current Asset Test- allowed exempt assets Years Single person Married couple with one in care Married couple, both in care July 2016 CPI adjusted $218,432 $119,614 + house +car or $218,432 total $218,432 23

Paying for old age care in New Zealand Contract price Subsidy Subsidy Other Income Top-up subsidy Other Income and assets Maximum Capped personal contribution State pension State pension State pension State pension only Low assets Some other income Failing means test 24

How are middle income people affected? Annual capped payment- Individual contribution Capped $ 50,544 If net NZS = $18,500 Top-up subsidy Other Income and assets Other income needed =$32,000+ ( need for more for expenses) Note additional Govt- TOP UP may be as high as $27,000- high level of care. State pension Failing means test 25

4. Decumulation policies- do we have any? The burden of protecting nest eggs 26

What does utopian decumulation policy look like? Retired from teaching at 58, on GSF pension Benefits of longevity protection inflation protection peace of mind End of life/ dementia care Good for family and individual to have income stream to help pay for care

Private pensions: a thing of the past 25 20 % Superannuation coverage in workplace schemes (excluding KiwiSaver) <2% in DB schemes 15 10 5 0 1991 1993 1995 1997 1999 2001 2003 2005 2007 2009 2011

How large does an income supplement have to be? Using updates of estimates from the School of Population Health RPRC suggests that an extra $10,000 is a good ball park figure BUT, the elephant in the room is long-term care

Why no annuities? Not lack of demand Research from Australia shows that people are interested in annuities Pre-retirees do consider purchasing fairly priced annuities when products described in terms of their features rather than commercial product names - H Bateman Products emerging eg Challenger NZ has NZIG as a modest beginning 30

So what role for policy? We missed the boat with KiwiSaver BUT there are few tax favours for accumulation therefore Voluntary annuitisation of KiwiSaver and other savings could be subsidised Say to max annuity of $10,000 pa annum Use KiwiSaver infrastructure Maybe default option Inflation adjusted, gender neutral, maybe 5-10 year guarantee? Government may be provider in a Crown Entity Long-term care rider Facilitated by the capped fee 31

In the meantime.what do you advise middle income retirees? 65+ year olds with modest lump-sum savings, with access to say $150,000-$200,000 They face risks of: living longer than expected Or dying with unintended bequests unanticipated inflation investment risk failure of investment to keep pace with growth fraud and mismanagement of retirement assets. Too much choice!! ill health and long term care; uncertain costs 32