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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 Regular Board Meeting Minutes Cache Valley Transit District Wednesday, November 15, 2017 5:45 pm Bridgerland Applied Technology College 1301 North 600 West, Logan, Utah Room 840 Present: Roger Jones, Holly Broome-Hyer, Glen Schmidt, Ron Natali, Rodger Pond, Dean Quayle, Heidi Harper, Patrick Jenkins, Jeff Turley, Amber Sleight, Norman Larsen, Sallie Petersen, Jeannie Simmonds, and Erik Ashcroft Excused: Craig Wright, Deborah Miller, Sue Sorensen, Shaun Bushman, and Liz Cruz Others: Todd Beutler, Curtis Roberts, and Charise VanDyke Regular Meeting Agenda 1. Call to order: Board Chair Roger Jones 2. Acceptance of Minutes: Roger Jones added one item to the agenda, the swearing in of a new board member. Roger Jones asked for a motion to approve the minutes and the agenda with one item added. Jeannie Simmonds moved; Rodger Pond seconded. Vote was unanimous. 3. Approval of Agenda: Roger Jones moved the approval of the agenda with the minutes. Vote was unanimous. 4. Next Board Meeting: December 8, 2017 at Logan River Clubhouse 5. Questions and Comments for Management and Board (3 minutes or less): No questions. Board Business 6. Oath of office Patrick Jenkins: Patrick Jenkins, who replaced Rich Anderson, introduced himself. Curtis Roberts swore the new board member in. 7. Board Social December 8, 2017 at Logan River Clubhouse: Roger Jones spoke briefly on the upcoming board social. 8. Report on Cache Summit Roger Jones: Roger Jones spoke about the summit he, Todd Beutler, and Ron Natali attended. There were many attendees, including many

43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 of the elected leaders from Cache County, developers, and real estate people, as well as those from the public. Envision Utah helped with the event. When asked what the most important issue facing Cache Valley the top concern was transportation with air quality as a close second. Cache Valley is projected to grow by almost 60,000 people by 2040; it will take work and planning to manage this growth. 9. Discussion of the Long Range Transportation Plan Jeff Gilbert, Cache Metropolitan Planning Organization (CMPO): Jeff Gilbert spoke about CMPO s involvement in long range transportation planning; this includes multiple transportation aspects such as road planning and public transportation, as well as considerations for bikes and pedestrians. The Census Bureau considers Cache Valley an urbanized area. CMPO is required to do plans that project out 20 years; plans are constricted by assumed revenue. This plan is updated every four years; CMPO will do their next update in two years. The Short Range Transportation Plan (SRTP) that CVTD just conducted will be used to inform their plan. Air quality issues are a big part of their plan. There will potentially be a new budget to deal with emissions. CMPO has to prove that emissions are within the standard; there are more stringent emissions tests coming. The three primary issues that the valley is facing are air quality, growth (of which transportation is key), and not being associated with the interstate freeway system. Wasatch Front has realized that they need a comprehensive plan to tackle their transportation issues. On I-15 for one, they d have to build 15 lanes (or double decker highways) just to keep up; they ve realized that they need to get more creative and look at policy they can t always build their way out of problems. One of the things they ve looked at is making public transit fare free in the corridor. While Cache Valley does not face the same constraints as the Wasatch Front, policy is still key. One of the things CMPO is considering is bus rapid transit, but that may be a long way off. Some general questions and comments. There are several things to consider for the future of Cache Valley, like future funding for things like road maintenance and transportation; if Cache Valley doesn t get ahead it could become a lot more costly. 10. Presentation of 3 rd quarter financials Glen Schmidt: There were no surprises in the third quarter and everything is on schedule. He highlighted a couple of things that could be of interest to the board, such as the cash balances being higher than expected because of the grant funds CVTD received for bus purchases. Norman Larsen asked about the high cost for tires. Curtis Roberts replied that the purchase of tires used to be spread out over the years, but that Michelin recently recalled all of the tires that the buses had been using. Now all tire replacements occur almost at the same time. Tire wear on the buses is similar (but not the same), so it will take time before purchasing will spread out again. Roger Jones asked for a motion to accept the budget report. Dean Quayle motioned, and Ron Natali seconded. Vote was unanimous.

85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 11. Discussion of Fiscal Year 2018 budget - Glen Schmidt: The budget is very similar to what was presented last month; however, it was updated to reflect the sales tax increase and the gas price increase. Glen Schmidt opened it up to the board to discuss the 2018 budget. Norman Larsen asked for time to speak and present to the board; he takes sales tax personally and got onto the CVTD board for that reason. He outlined a few of his concerns; he feels that the shop isn t as efficient as it should be and that the food expenses are high. He also feels that CVTD should utilize the student population for free help. Overall he feels like every company has a valuable final product and that everything should revolve around ridership, but costs have gone up, ridership has gone down, and that the cost per ride has gone up. Roger Jones pointed out that this is a policy issue; if the board wanted to solely focus on ridership that would, for example, mean cutting out Millville because it costs more per rider and then focusing on increasing service in a one-mile radius around USU. It is ultimately the board s decision if CVTD should pursue increasing ridership. Todd Beutler added that he wants the board to make sure they are making good policy decisions. If the board wants CVTD to increase ridership, a plan could be put together to do that, but it would come at a cost of what the system was originally put together for the low income, disabled, and elderly populations. Purely increasing ridership may change the demographic of who the system is serving. Jeannie Simmonds added that she thinks that Norman is making a good point: is CVTD about exposure or efficiency? The board could in the future look at how much they are willing to spend per rider in some areas. Ron Natali commented that the SRTP has given the board options to look at; where the board chooses to put resources will affect both the budget and the ridership. Should the board focus on ridership, coverage of the area, or a mix of the two? Roger Jones commented that the SRTP, and what to do moving forward, will be looked at in more depth next year giving the staff time to come back with their recommendations. Todd Beutler commented that there is money set aside in the budget for the coming year to conduct a voter survey, as well engage a marketing firm, to understand the changes in society, engage the riders better, and develop strategies to increase ridership. Norman Larsen said that he would argue that CVTD is doing the same thing and getting less ridership. Roger Jones turned some time over to Erik Ashcroft, who also expressed interest in presenting to the board. Erik Ashcroft said that he looked into more detail on the food budget for this last year. He believes that the expenses are excessive. Roger Jones said that it is the board prerogative to reduce that part of the budget or to accept the recommendation of the staff. Todd Beutler stated that the budget request is based on what the staff thinks is needed to successfully execute and achieve budgetary goals, but that the board has the ultimate decision on what that budget will be. Rodger Pond commented that if someone at CVTD is conducting business during lunch it is appropriate to order lunch and that employee morale is important in a service industry. Todd Beutler explained that CVTD has a policy on food that requires documentation and a business purpose, as well as approval; a record is kept on each expense, so if the board wants to review the

127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 records the staff will provide that information to the board. Roger Jones said that the board could either accept the staff s recommendation or move to reduce the food budget. He asked that the board members who felt strongly about reducing the food budget to make a motion to do so; Erik Ashcroft made a motion to reduce the food budget by $10,000 and Norman Larsen seconded. Amber Sleight asked for examples of when money is spent on food. Todd Beutler gave a few examples of when meals have been bought: after a snow crew has spent 14 hours removing snow, a meeting with someone from the legislature subcommittee to discuss transportation issues, and a transportation planning session; all occasions have to meet the criteria of the current food policy and the proper paperwork filled out. He added that if it would be helpful the policy can be brought before the board; the staff is willing to do whatever the board wants to do. Ron Natali proposed another option: instead of reducing the budget by $10,000, the policy is brought before the board and restructured to meet the needs of the board and then approved for use. If expenditures go down for the 2018 budget, based on the policy, the board can leave it at that. Sallie Petersen agreed with Ron and said that she feels that employee morale is important and that blindly cutting an amount is not good; the board should focus on the policy. Roger Jones said that they have a motion on the floor, but stated that there is another suggestion and if those who motioned agreed a substitute motion could be made. Norman Larsen asked if the food budget needed to be approved this month; Curtis Roberts replied that a tentative budget needed to be passed for the month of November so that the budget could be released to the public for comment. The final budget is not passed until December and then goes into effect January 1; the budget can be amended up or down in January, but requires that the board holds another public hearing. Jeannie Simmonds commented that she agrees that the policy review and adjustment will take care of these challenges without requiring the budget to be changed right now. She also stated that just because it is in the budget doesn t mean that it will be spent, if it s not spent, it simply goes back into that cash reserves. The motion to reduce the food budget by $10,000 was withdrawn. The food policy will be examined in January. Jeannie Simmonds moved to adopt the tentative budget and Dean Quayle seconded. Roger Jones asked if they would add approving two additional full-time driver positions and final approval of the employee benefits package to their motion because those needed to be finalized in November; they agreed. Norman Larsen asked if there would be further discussion on professional fees; Jeannie Simmonds and Glen Schmidt stated that this is a tentative approval and things can be discussed further in the December meeting. Norman Larsen also stated that he feels like CVTD employees should partially pay for their benefits because of the increase in cost; Todd Beutler replied that the benefits package is essential for employee retention and that whether the benefits package continues is carefully considered every year. Roger Jones stated that he wants to act on the motion on the floor to approve a tentative budget, two new full-time driver positions, and the benefits package; he asked for a vote by the raise of hand. Norman Larsen and Erik Ashcroft opposed. Motion passed.

169 170 171 172 173 174 12. Board Chair's report: No report. 13. General Manager's report: No report. 14. Adjourn: Board Chair Roger Jones adjourned the meeting.